LGB Conservatives think the Tory party is captured too.

For the record, this is Justine's response to the data breach, where Emma's involvement is confirmed

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3226724-Mumsnet-Data-Breach-Q-A

Maybe if some future employer does a search on Emma Healey, Civil Service, this background information will come to light. Actions have consequences; it's not as if she was some disgruntled teenager mouthing off in her bedroom at the time.

TimeLady
Thank you for this information. It is really shocking that someone responsible for a leak like that has been given a position where data confidentiality is paramount.

If the Civil Service HR departments are 'too busy' to do a simple Google search and you don't offer the employer concerned as a referee, then who would know? I mean, no-one is going to admit to being the source of a data leak in an interview process, are they?

But given the topic of this thread, (which is why we're discussing this individual) maybe it didn't matter anyway, as it was perceived as the 'right sort of leak'. You know, against bigoted women.

Who is she related to or can’t we say? Wouldn’t want to publish people’s private info obviously because that is not something that decent people would do

Don't think she needs to be very special to benefit from nepotism, really, just a bit posh.

Is she someone very special?

Re the former Mumsnet intern leaker's current job,. I suspect that the pattern of lack of consequences is simply the result of being related to the right people.

Transexualism was never a threat to women on the same scale

The policies which people are becoming aware of which impact Women's (sex-based) Rights & Safeguarding have been lobbied for behind closed doors for a long time. Many of those who have been at the fore of pushing sex self-id policies are transsexuals.

AngryAttackKittens wrote:

"I'm going to point every "but the nice, harmless old school transsexuals whose movement has been unfairly appropriated by the nasty transgender people" person to this thread from now on.

All the same elements we're seeing now were there in that old BBC roundtable from the 70s with the 4 transwomen, the politician, and the doctor. None of this is new."

Important thread about the history of trans rights activism in UK:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

Transexualism was never a threat to women on the same scale, because let's face it - extremely few male people are going to voluntarily part from their penises. The numbers were so small as to be negligible in impact. It's the vapid notion of 'gender' that's putting women and children at risk.

It would be normal to seek references - wonder what MN said about her. The more I think about it the more it is odd that someone responsible for such a major breach of trust and confidentiality has got a job in the CS and one in a ministerial office at that.

For posters who don't know what we're talking about, these are the relevant threads relating to the data breach by a Mumsnet intern in 2018

See also the thread discussing NUS Women's Conference workshop by Rowan Davis & Eden Ladley 'How To Deal With Terfs' which prompted Emma's determination to stop MN members discussing this & protect her friend/s(?). Emma claimed she had friends still working at MN who might be able to sort out the 'transphobic scum'
This was just prior to her publishing of the blog 'exposing' the 'transphobia' on Mumsnet FWR.

Eden Ladley is currently NUS Trans Officer & a founder signatory of the Labour Trans Radical Pledge.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3222263-Slide-show-on-How-to-Deal-with-TERFs?pg=1#prettyPhoto[gallery77202844]/1/

Jan Morris has latterly acknowledged that they are not a woman. They think they are somewhere in the middle.

It just feels that this whole issue is becoming so polarised and soon there'll be no space for anyone who isn't firmly on one side or the other. Are transwomen women? Well, no, if that means someone can wake up one morning and declare themselves a woman and that's it; on the other hand I do regard the likes of Jan Morris as being a woman

It has become polarised because radical transgender ideology is seeking to re-frame what constitutes a woman; and replace the fact of sex category with gender identity...and furthermore to move in and colonise women's spaces/services and sports; & redefine the language that it is 'legitimate' to use, and in doing so negating women's right to organise on behalf of their own interests.

Also the issue of children, and what our children are being taught......this is pretty basic, fundamental stuff.I'm not sure how anyone can be mild mannered or on the fence about this, myself?

If you accept trans ideology then you have to accept the whole lot of it - as a logical necessity.

I also don't see Jan Morris as a woman - but as a trans woman - which is something quite different ( & yes I have read Morris's book about 'transitioning', and as well as their travel writing.

That Vercida website - not heard of them. They promote diversity - Over 50s, LGBTQ+, disabilities (sic), parents and returners. Funny what group they don’t mention by name.

Are we really going to spend the next five years looking at women's rights entirely through the prism of one issue and ignoring everything else the Tories will do to fuck up women's lives

You see, many, including myself, see this as an absolutely first order issue.......not secondary; or one less important than any of the others.....it is fundamental to our understanding of ourselves as human beings, and as women. Also the issue has major implications for our children and grandchildren.

For posters who don't know what we're talking about, these are the relevant threads relating to the data breach by a Mumsnet intern in 2018

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3225517-The-MNHQ-Moderation-team#77214568

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3226060-The-MNHQ-Moderation-Team-Thread-2

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3388461-The-aftermath-of-the-intern-data-leak

Dearest Emma, gone, but not forgotten.

Here's what her role involves.

www.vercida.com/uk/articles/department-transport-assistant-private-secretary

I'm surprised, given Dominic Cumming's professed hatred of civil servants who leak, that she is still in a job.

But more surprised she passed security vetting to get into the civil service, given her history. She sounds completely unsuitable and with no understanding of civil service values or appropriate behaviour. Impartiality is key - doxxing contacts because you disagree with their politics is the very opposite of what is permitted in the Civil Service Code!

Candidly I’m surprised Emma got through CS vetting with her history of leaking. I imagine she’s in a v junior ministerial office role but you don’t get to do that without signing the official secrets act. Even the diary secretary will have access to highly confidential information just by virtue of being in the minister’s office. Surprising.

DoT is not a standard launching pad for really high flying Civil service careers.

Time will tell. Regulatory capture wouldn't work unless it was subtly introduced.

If I was Andrew, (or Dominic Cummings), my spidey-senses would be tingling.

Probably not. Assistant private secretary is a good start to a fast stream Civil Seevice career, but Private Secretaries and Under Secretaries, even Permanent Secretaries will guard their No 10 contacts carefully.

DoT is not a standard launching pad for really high flying Civil service careers.

Andrew Gilligan "is a British policy adviser and journalist, currently transport adviser to the Prime Minister. Until July 2019 he was senior correspondent of The Sunday Times"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gilligan

Emma Healey is "Assistant Private Secretary at Department for Transport (DfT)"

uk.linkedin.com/in/emma-healey-954250167

I wonder if they've met?

The cynic in me is thinking that perhaps displaying overtly woke /anti-GC credentials might be seen as a positive attribute in an organisation that has been 'captured'. Especially if the recruiters share similar views.

The 21C equivalent of the masonic handshake.

Surely she would have needed references to get the CS job?

And I would hope that MN would not give a clean reference to anyone known to have doxxed MN users. That's a clear data protection issue. And exactly the kind of thing that should make her ineligible for a job in the CS - which itself has very clear, strict guidelines on these sorts of things.

I wouldn't expect anyone to google all applicants, but I would expect them to run a basic check once they were considering offering someone the job.

Quite frankly, if the CS process didn't pick up on her actions, then the recruitment process isn't fit for purpose. The data breach was in Feb/March 2018 and she joined the CS in Jan 2019.

We're talking about doxxing women she disagreed with, not getting smashed off her face partying in Ibiza. A lot of women were very upset by her actions. I wouldn't trust her with sensitive information in a month of Sundays.