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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour Leadership Candidates on Newsnight

83 replies

MarSeeAh · 12/02/2020 23:21

Not one of them gives a toss about women’s rights!

Not one of them is prepared to say that biological reality is, well, reality.

For fuck’s sake!

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Thelnebriati · 12/02/2020 23:36

each such instance of talking about biology would be assessed on a case by case basis for transphobia

This sounds like a sinister reversal of the wording in the Equality Act.

GladAllOver · 12/02/2020 23:35

As I just said on the other thread, it's sad that it has to be a man who is more thoughtful about women's welfare.

Poota · 12/02/2020 23:32

Oh, and RLB said that talking about biological sex could be transphobic if it was meant in a transphobic way, and that each such instance of talking about biology would be assessed on a case by case basis for transphobia.

I was so depressed about Nandy, who I have always been quite impressed by and liked most of her other comments.

Poota · 12/02/2020 23:30

Posted this on another and this one appeared as I was posting, so I'll add it here -

RLB and Lisa Nandy 100% behind that totalitarian pledge - RLB for waffle reasons, Nandy because she has a trans constituent (presumably she has no women constituents who need support)

Starmer and Thornberry much more careful - Thornberry saying TWAW, but pleading for people stop screeching about hate, and that seemed in reference to WPUK and LGB alliance and she wont be signing the pledge. Starmer much, much more careful.

But all, every one, framing it as a question about trans rights and completely ignoring the issue being about women.

GlomOfNit · 12/02/2020 23:24

Watching this with a sick feeling in my stomach ... I desperately wanted KS to say SOMETHING that indicates he doesn't really believe the koolaid line ... but no.

None of them are going to say anything remotely gender critical, are they? Regardless of how they feel.

I had to restrain myself from lobbing something at the telly when R L-B was speaking.

MaMaLa321 · 12/02/2020 23:24

sorry - I've just started another thread on this.
Were Women's Rights mentioned? At all?

StandWithYou · 12/02/2020 23:24

Me too

TinselAngel · 12/02/2020 23:22

And I just finally left the Labour Party.