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Tatchell on OCC JR

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2fallsagain · 11/02/2020 22:31

Tatchell had a lot to say about the Oxfordshire JR on RT news yesterday and this is the safe schools alliance response to him. He said girls need to get over their embarrassment of their bodies and that big money from anti trans groups was funding the JR.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1227210600347992065?s=20

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GCAcademic · 12/02/2020 10:16

Older male has not the slightest inkling of what teenage girls' lives and experiences are like.

Or, he doesn't care.

He doesn't care. He falls within a specific category of gay men who despise women and would rather we didn't exist except for those occasional functions like surrogacy when we might be useful to them. It's disgusting to blame girls rather than boys and society for their embarrassment and unease at their developing bodies, and to say that it's girls who should be "challenged" about this. Anyone who had the slightest regard for girls as actual human beings would not even think such a thing.

OldCrone · 12/02/2020 10:13

I am sure stripping off in front of them would have completely changed their attitude

And of course would also have made you more comfortable about your body Hmm

Tatchell must be so invested in his need to remove boundaries from children that he can't see how creepy he looks to everyone who wants to protect those children.

Another reminder that 'progressive' doesn't always mean positive.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/02/2020 10:09

Older male has not the slightest inkling of what teenage girls' lives and experiences are like.

Or, he doesn't care.

Girls (and boys, for that matter) (and women, and men) have autonomy and the right to bodily privacy, a right to dignity. They have the right to their own thoughts, responses and wants.

Is he effectively suggesting we remove the right to privacy altogether?

theflushedzebra · 12/02/2020 10:04

I remember yr6 school swimming very well indeed, the boys openly appraising the girls' breast development, without reprimand. Shouting "boobs! she's got real boobs!" at well developed girls. Trying to peer through into the girls changing room to catch a glimpse - any tiny glimpse of the girls changing.

Perhaps all this went above Tatchell's head? (All boys school??) But the answer is not to challenge the "girls' embarrassment over their bodies" - girls and women are entitled to privacy away from the male gaze. All males.

Aesopfable · 12/02/2020 09:56

I was a late developer and remember boys jeering about my ‘fried eggs’. Of course, I am sure stripping off in front of them would have completely changed their attitude Hmm

RoyalCorgi · 12/02/2020 09:55

And he thinks this is going to be solved by making them undress in front of these boys.

What a delight he is. It baffles me that Tatchell's endorsement of paedophilia has been publicly available knowledge for 20 years, and yet he continues to be fawned off by the media and by politicians. What is wrong with these people? His public humiliation can't come fast enough.

OhHolyJesus · 12/02/2020 09:52

One of the corner stones of Educate and Celebrate is "When you truly love someone age doesn't matter. Whether it's a difference of 2 years or 30 years. Love is Love."

Unsurprising that a paedophile apologist (at best) is the patron, given the above.

Why is no one looking into his computer files?

OldCrone · 12/02/2020 09:51

It's as if he thinks girls' embarrassment about their bodies comes from themselves, rather than from having boys grab their breasts, put their hand up their skirts, make lewd comments etc.

And he thinks this is going to be solved by making them undress in front of these boys.

RoyalCorgi · 12/02/2020 09:47

"we need to challenge those who feel uncomfortable, to make them feel comfortable in their own bodies, and around the bodies of others, to enable them not to feel embarrassed or threatened or ashamed".

It's as if he thinks girls' embarrassment about their bodies comes from themselves, rather than from having boys grab their breasts, put their hand up their skirts, make lewd comments etc. Not to mention grown men who proposition them in the street. What a vile old creep he is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2020 09:21

Tatchell can fuck right off with this. Who is letting him go into schools?

2fallsagain · 12/02/2020 09:12

Yes lordfrontpaw, I agree. My daughter wants to know where her flag and days and special status awards for schools are. She has dyspraxia (she doesn't really want all of that, but she is aware that some groups are way more important than others. And not a day goes by where her dyspraxia is not the cause of some nasty remark or exclusion,

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Lordfrontpaw · 12/02/2020 08:58

Inclusive they say? Where are the disabled team leaders, the physically scarred, the deaf, blind, those with learning disabilities...?

Why is this type of ‘inclusion’ in schools the only game in town. A more suspicious person would think...

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 12/02/2020 08:55

The thing that terrifies me is how this is in plain sight & the press dont immediately tag anything he says with his statements about child abuse/sex with minors.

The idea that schools think he is a safe person makes me want to weep

2fallsagain · 12/02/2020 08:51

www.educateandcelebrate.org/the-team/

Here is is, patron of an organisation which is embedded into so many schools.

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pachyderm · 12/02/2020 08:36

Fucking nonce. How is he even allowed a platform with his track record? Have a reread of Julie Bindel's thread

mobile.twitter.com/bindelj/status/1060945932479533056?lang=en

Lordfrontpaw · 12/02/2020 08:28

Sorry but I didn’t see the memo - when was he put in charge of how girls and young women should feel? I missed that one.

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 12/02/2020 08:24

Spoken like someone who has no idea what it is like to be a teenage girl.

2fallsagain · 12/02/2020 07:38

Well the crowdfunder has gone up a couple of grand since we posted that thread so every cloud....

Watching it back several time's to write the thread really heightened my feelings in unease about this man. I have no idea why schools have him in. He is a patron of educate and celebrate which in itself should be a reason for schools not to use them.

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CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 12/02/2020 07:22

His only goal is to get to a point where sex, and sexual acts around children are normalised.

Bezalelle · 12/02/2020 07:18

Nonce.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 12/02/2020 06:57

Girls are the problem????!!
Sex with 9 year olds?
Girls showing their bodies to men?

Odious sleaze...

Remember he helped close down Catholic adoption agencies who were effective in placing vulnerable children in homes leaving these children to languish in care.

The Catholic agencies wouldn’t adopt to gay couples but would refer on.

Did he bother to help gay only adoption agencies so there was equality for potential gay parents instead...No.

How many potential gay parents were helped to adopt through this policy? NONE

Just closed them down instead. Children just left in care...No concern for these high marginalised children...

BovaryX · 12/02/2020 06:02

It really is indicative of an arrogant sense of entitlement that Tatchell reckons the problem is with girls and their desire for 'privacy.' How does he dare think anyone has to the right to invade that privacy? How does he imagine adolescent girls are going to magically attain complete confidence in their bodies in the era of Instagram? Privacy is not an unreasonable expectation. But the idea that privacy should be breached because of the aggressive demands of an influential lobby? That defines unreasonable.

zanahoria · 12/02/2020 00:21

" He's morphed from a passionate supporter of gay rights into sleazy, seedy old man."

He has always had both sides to him, it was nearly 40 years ago that he contributed that article to the PIE book, he claimed

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“”I had no idea that [Middleton] was involved in paedophilia advocacy when I was asked to write my essay. [...] When I was invited to write a chapter, I was told it was a book about children's rights and asked if I could write about the age of consent. It seemed a reasonable request at the time"

Did he not read the other articles!? Did he not wonder what the initials of Betrayal Of Youth spelled out?

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange

theflushedzebra · 12/02/2020 00:08

He said girls need to get over their embarrassment of their bodies

Yeah. Fuck that Peter. We see you, and your "sex with 9yr olds" sleaze-letter. There's a word for men like you, Peter.

OldCrone · 12/02/2020 00:02

If a child is confused about their 'gender' it's much more likely that they're gay than trans. Transing children means fewer gay adults. Tatchell is no longer supporting gay rights. What he's supporting now is something else entirely.

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