#ExpelMe trending.

Do you happen to have a link to that report, or coverage of it, catfromjapan? I'd agree that we're not even close to full public awareness on these issues so if it's already having an impact on elections that's very interesting indeed (and supports my feeling that the only reason TRAs have been able to gain as much traction as they have has been that the public has had no idea what they were up to).

I think Starmer's answers on MN suggested a position very far from that of R L-B. It indicated he would not be 'outlawing' Women's Place UK, or labelling support for Women's Place UK as transphobic.

I suspect that this is part of the reason for R L-B's coming out with this.

And we can see the problem.

Other MPs are falling behind R L-B as quick as they can - because they know many of the hardcore activists expect it.

KS knows that this is electoral death.

It's a right mess. 🤷‍♀️

This actually came up in the Ashdown research into why Labour lost.

I was surprised: I thought it was an issue that hasn't yet reached the wider public.

The Ashown report has quantitative interviews with voters. And pronouns and women's rights is reported as being a significant part of why people feel Labour no longer represents them.

Already.

I say 'already' because I still think awareness of this issue isn't as widespread as it can be, and isn't yet impacting as much as it will.

But even in the Ashdown report, it's there. As an issue that alienated people from Labour.

Is Labour a vanguard Party, that sets an agenda in advance of popular opinion? Should it be?

On this issue, that is precisely what Labour is setting itself up as.

And the Ashdown report suggests that is a mistake.

Unfortunately, all this shows that Labour is not looking at the Ashdown report and is still in deep denial about the results of the GE.

🤦‍♀️

Congrats on not having Belcher as your MP, SingingLily! I will also be sending WPUK some dosh.

"Keir Starmer was very wishing washy on the recent Mn webchat about toeing the party line on TWAW. I wonder if he think it is bollocks"

I think he is avoiding the subject as much as possible as he knows it will alienate one side, it's a bit cowardly but he has some political nous if he can sense how controversial the issue is.

"I am tempted to resign my membership of the Conservative party and join the Labour Party just so they can #ExpelMe"

Tempting indeed especially as I joined the Conservatives specifically to help stop the local LibDem candidate from becoming my MP in December. Helen Belcher.

I'm not on Twitter so I can't use the hashtag.

But there is something I can do and just have: subscribe and donate to that well-known hate group, WPUK.

How does one join WPUK? Do you have to be part of a trade union?

They've been reminding me for months to renew my membership, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Today I'll write and tell them why.

Goodbye Labour Party. This adult human female has had enough. No need to expel me, I resign. I hope you enjoy the wilderness years, as there will be many.

its all over twitter but not a single word on fb from my political friends.

If the reform of the GRA is on ice why does its page say they're still analysing responses etc?
Do they think we're fucking idiots?

"I am tempted to resign my membership of the Conservative party and join the Labour Party just so they can #ExpelMe"

Gosh. I really wonder if there will be a mass exodus of women from the party? And if that would shake them up, or?

I suppose if you have convinced yourself that a large sector of the population are effectively demanding something akin to Jim Crow type segregation, you can't try and compromise?

Latest news, 25,000 #Expelme tweets and @WomansPlaceUK has 400 new members

How to destroy a political party in a matter of days

@Qcng
Keir Starmer was very wishing washy on the recent Mn webchat about toeing the party line on TWAW. I wonder if he think it is bollocks. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_live_events/3810484-Webchat-with-Labour-leadership-contender-Sir-Keir-Starmer-MP-on-Monday-February-3-at-1-30pm

This thread is gold. Thank you so much for posting.

Labour have fucked up really badly on this.

The rejection of safeguarding children, the rejection of women's rights, the promotion of men's domination.

Slow fucking handclap.

I suppose it's too late for the LibDems too (Jo Swinson!)

Oh good god #expelme

I had a comment deleted last night..despite the OP calling all women cis first

I’m done

Am I the only one to be really concerned for Humberside police? They are gonna be sooooooooo busy for the coming weeks.

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

A reply to that made me and in equal measures. The last paragraph is pure gold.

If trans people, according to this user, have equal rights and none of these rights are being lost or erased then they are protesting about... what, exactly?

I swear, society (or maybe just the loudmouth gobshites on Twitter) have become much more stupid in the last ten years or so. Idiocracy doesn’t seem like just a film anymore, but a dystopia.

I present the conversation here, and in particular the person responding, without comment as an illustration of where Labour support is apparently to be found at the moment.

twitter.com/NotthatSuzanne/status/1227210161938407425

@TimeMarchesOnNeverEnding
Their own bloody mantra is 'for the many, not the few'.

Did you come across the tweet that slightly changed their mantra?

For the men, not for you.

But with a bit of luck, this will cast a bit more sunlight on the whole thing - and that's always good.

Judging by the leadership candidates tweets, and the remarks of the likes of Owen Jones etc - No, labour do not get it. I think they think we just need to have a bit of re-education - you know, like Tatchell says, that girls just need to stop being silly prudes and learn to strip off in front of adult males without embarrassment. And like Helen Webberley says - just give kids all the puberty blocker and sex hormones they want! Then we all chant "TWAW, TMAM, NB people are VALID! Chant it, people! Then everything will be ok

Or even my breath!

Will Labour finally get it? Understand what happened on December 12th? That only focussing on a tiny coterie of woke brainwashed idiots and pleasing some dubious middle aged men is doing them no favours and a disgraceful way to run the opposition? Sadly I won't hold me breath.