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Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW

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jadefinch · 11/02/2020 13:36

And has effectively also said that Women's Place and the LGB Alliance (essentially groups for women, gays and lesbians to meet and discuss women's, gay and lesbian issues) are hate groups and them meeting are hate crimes

Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
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Justhadathought · 12/02/2020 10:17

It’s so uplifting to see how enthusiastically and seriously Labour has embraced this “period of reflection” following their disastrous election campaign

Momentum have turned Labour into a fringe religious group. Socialism is the new Christianity - and the benefits will never come in this world...only the next.

ThePurported · 12/02/2020 10:15

once one woman signed, there was a collective clamour to get it done and retain the votes of the momentum nutters who have squatted in the power base of the party like an ugly toad

I suppose some of them might be true believers in ladybrain and sex-as-a-spectrum, but the really chilling bit is their willingness to denounce women's and LGB rights campaigners as hate groups.
A couple of months ago Labour were making noises about protecting women's sex-based rights, and now this.

Justhadathought · 12/02/2020 10:14

To be honest, I hope they now elect Long Bailey........that will mean they are finished as a political force....for many years to come.

Xanthangum · 12/02/2020 10:11

Selina Todd is talking about it in an hour or so.

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1227531291853234178?s=20

Justhadathought · 12/02/2020 10:11

Yet they are turning their backs on women and even threatening them - for what? I just can't get my head round it at all

They're all onboard a train which they won't be able to exit until it crashes. It's such a shame to see Lisa Nandy conform to this, though...she was my preferred candidate, and I thought she, at least, might just say nothing. Disappointing.

GCAcademic · 12/02/2020 10:09

Oh, Andy Burnham is not a friend to women. He has already shown his colours on this.

GCAcademic · 12/02/2020 10:08

As for LOJ and his 'don't want your votes anyway' petulance - go ahead, mate, see how well that strategy has worked for the LibDems, you faux-socialist.

The incredible thing about this is that after the general election result, LOJ utterly denied that anyone was telling voters who didn't agree with far-left extremist positions not to vote for Labour. He was incredulous at the very suggestion that this could have happened. He shut up pretty quickly when someone showed him one of his own tweets.

AbsintheFriends · 12/02/2020 10:07

In - possibly related - news, TRAs appear to be cross that Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has met with the LGB Alliance but not Stonewall, Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence

I fear that Andy Burnham will never be a supporter of women's rights. This meeting will be used to say that he's listened, considered all the arguments, and his conclusion is that the only women that matter are the ones with penises.

Poota · 12/02/2020 09:58

Starmer is presumably staying away because he's a canny politician who thinks he has already said enough to display fealty to the Queer theory crowd, and realizes leaving this one alone may get him the votes of the women who are so pissed off with it.

I suspect the women candidates eagerly demonstrating their credentials by signing a statement pledging to expel women who wish to discuss their rights in the context of biological reality, and lesbians, gay men and bisexual people who don't want their rights diluted by connections to nonces and gender neo-religion, believe they are being brave and progressive, and once one woman signed, there was a collective clamour to get it done and retain the votes of the momentum nutters who have squatted in the power base of the party like an ugly toad.

It's a race to the bottom, basically. The only thing that can be said for Starmer right now is that he's not yet been stupid enough to think the bottom is the ideal destination.

As for LOJ and his 'don't want your votes anyway' petulance - go ahead, mate, see how well that strategy has worked for the LibDems, you faux-socialist.

Lumene · 12/02/2020 09:57

In this climate I need Labour politicians to actually stand up for women though.

No leadership candidate who did this would win enough momentum/woke votes from the membership to win.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 12/02/2020 09:54

I wonder if part of the reason behind their desire to display wokeness at all times may be that they think they will be appealing to the younger demographic ie younger teens who will be of an age to vote at the next election?
Perhaps that's giving them too much credit, you can't really have an eye to the long game if you have them closed very tightly!

Even if this was a factor, you would think they would realise that throwing 50% of the population under the bus as an inducement to the younger demographic vote, doesn't make much sense...but sense seems to be sadly lacking, doesn't it.

Even now I find it hard to believe adults could be so wilfully fucking stupid as to genuinely fall for this denial of reality, or to pretend they have fallen.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/02/2020 09:54

The problem is that the crossover between the groups "people who might be able to win the Labour Party leadership" and "people who the general public might be willing to vote for" is approaching absolute zero. If Starmer says anything sensible about trans issues he won't be elected leader. If someone who says all the things that would win them the leadership is presented to the general public, well, we all just saw what happens a few months ago.

RoyalCorgi · 12/02/2020 09:53

What happened to little OJ's resolution not to post provocative comments on Twitter? Didn't last long, did it?

They really are the most tremendous bunch of eejits, to channel Father Dougal.

Michelleoftheresistance · 12/02/2020 09:46

Starmer made very clear on the MN webchat that he's fully signed up to anti women, anti LGB and anti safeguarding and to jumping on command. If he's got sufficient pattern recognition to realise that saying so on Twitter this morning is a Bad Idea, that doesn't mean he's any different to the others.

There is no non-lunatic option in the Labour leadership race, you can just select your lunatic to be sold in a range of cosmetic shapes and voice options.

OnABeachSomewhere · 12/02/2020 09:44

What a shame there is so much gynophobia among the woke, much of it from women, too.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/02/2020 09:27

Or with the puppy play blokes, who presumably have some sort of organization to promote their interests too. The speciesist bastard.

ThePurported · 12/02/2020 09:24

In - possibly related - news, TRAs appear to be cross that Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has met with the LGB Alliance but not Stonewall, Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence

He probably hasn't met with the Beaumont Society either, the bigot!

ArranUpsideDown · 12/02/2020 09:12

Where are the voices of feminists in the media, Jo Brand, Sandi Toskvig, Caitlin Moran, Jess Phillips, Stella Creasy etc

Pander to the dude bro or woke and you'll never go broke
Align with feminists, find finances in extremis

GCAcademic · 12/02/2020 09:03

It’s so uplifting to see how enthusiastically and seriously Labour has embraced this “period of reflection” following their disastrous election campaign.

Lordfrontpaw · 12/02/2020 09:02

Haha go Andy!

Xanthangum · 12/02/2020 09:01

In - possibly related - news, TRAs appear to be cross that Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has met with the LGB Alliance but not Stonewall, Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence

twitter.com/allianceLGBLewi/status/1227342606419533824?s=20

Mockersisrightasusual · 12/02/2020 08:56

Starmer is being very careful. Some people would rather he did a Kamikaze and blew up his own campaign, but this is better.

Violetparis · 12/02/2020 08:50

I am disappointed in Lisa Nandy too, I had thought she seemed a fair and sensible politician, will wait to see what Keir Starmer has to say. Angela Rayner has lost my vote.
Where are the voices of feminists in the media, Jo Brand, Sandi Toskvig, Caitlin Moran, Jess Phillips, Stella Creasy etc. Imagine if Boris or JRM had called for the shut down of women's voices, these 'feminists' would be all over social media to criticise.

Lordfrontpaw · 12/02/2020 08:48

Is it just me or are negative comments under the original tweet being weeded out?

Lordfrontpaw · 12/02/2020 08:41

They won’t though will they? The party isn’t the party anymore. It’s zombie Labour Party now.

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