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Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW

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jadefinch · 11/02/2020 13:36

And has effectively also said that Women's Place and the LGB Alliance (essentially groups for women, gays and lesbians to meet and discuss women's, gay and lesbian issues) are hate groups and them meeting are hate crimes

Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
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Arseaboutdarkly · 11/02/2020 15:24

Well, i've emailed Rayner to tell her what I think and that I can never support her while she supports that agenda.

Won't make any difference but it's important to say it anyway. As others have pointed out, being in a bubble where everyone agrees with each other is part of the problem.

Mockersisrightasusual · 11/02/2020 15:23

Starmer knows what he's doing. His adoption of the slogan Trans Rights Are Human Rights was a conscious one to avoid any hostages to fortune.

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jadefinch · 11/02/2020 15:22

This is happening more and more as a result of these pledges.

Women are being shamed and effectively accused of bigotry for the crimes of .. being biologists who talk at conferences about biology without ensuring that biological males could also speak.

Men are compiling lists of women who must be silenced.

Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
Angela Rayner says you can only be a Labour member if you believe TWAW
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Arseaboutdarkly · 11/02/2020 15:19

Cider and black

I'm not saying Keir is totally free of this crap, I think he basically fudged the questions in the webchat (admit i haven't read it properly) but he strikes me as a much more pragmatic, rational person so, once installed, more likely to tell people pushing this agenda to fuck off.

Mockersisrightasusual · 11/02/2020 15:19

Truth be told, Rayner is a bit thick. Not an impediment to advancement in Momentum Labour if you read the handouts aloud.

Tootsweets23 · 11/02/2020 15:18

They are both just so fucking dense. No wonder they flat share. For the reasons outlined above, even if you wholeheartedly believe TWAW (except they don't) it is just such dumb politics to back this - the wokerati members are already voting for them both (or RLB and Burgon), and the non-woke will be repelled by supporting such offensive drivel.

BringbackLang · 11/02/2020 15:18

I hope WPUK and LGB Alliance sue for slander

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 11/02/2020 15:17

Sane*

Floisme · 11/02/2020 15:17

I think you’re going to be sorely disappointed
You're probably right and it's probably for the best Britney - I can only see more suspensions coming out of it.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 11/02/2020 15:17

@littlbrowndog

And yet isn’t it funny how (grown adult) politicians have suddenly become so stupid when it comes to biology and yet toddlers would have no issue in asking questions that the same in society already knows the answers to?

Mossyrock · 11/02/2020 15:14

I'd be amazed if conservatives were to support this particular brand of authoritarian nonsense.

Lots of alternative misogyny on offer in the Tory party, of course.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 15:13

But they have a nap and get back to normal. I'm not so sure with this lot.

littlbrowndog · 11/02/2020 15:12

All of my toddlers at regular intervals been totally irrational

At no point did labour mps agreee with them. Though if the toddler could have got them to they would have. Often the dog was wrangled in to agree with them

Not sure where I am going with this tbh. Just this reminds me of toddlers irrational behaviour at times

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 11/02/2020 15:11

It really reads like it was written by a bunch of 17 year olds in the pub, on the back of a beermat, after too many pints of cider and black

Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 15:10

I wouldn't trust the Labour party to water a plant.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 11/02/2020 15:09

@Floisme
I can't wait for the web chat.

I think you’re going to be sorely disappointed...

Graphista · 11/02/2020 15:07

Just awful! I'm ashamed now to say I had liked Angela thought she was better than this.

Is Keir better on this crap? I notice a pp saying they're going to vote for him now. Or is he just less dreadful than the other candidates on this bollocks?

But as ever on such threads if you think the Tories are any better I've seen no evidence of that plenty of examples where they're just as bad but more quietly so but as they're the governing party they unfortunately have more power to implement changes that are detrimental to women and girls.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 15:05

poo poo head (channelling my inner toddler)

Arseaboutdarkly · 11/02/2020 15:03

Yes, beware all you toddlers of committing the 'hate crime' of 'misgendering'

How did this happen??

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jadefinch · 11/02/2020 15:03

Every one of those points is absurd and fascistic.

But just number 5: Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, and that all trans women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression.

  1. Why are transwomen singled out and not transmen?
  1. Their definiton of transwoman is anyone who says they are at that specific moment. So if any bearded man says 'I am a woman' then not only will Labour demand that this person is believed, which in itself is ridiculous, but everyone will be forced to accept that that person is now a victim of misogyny!
  1. 'Accept that there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights'. The reason this pledge has been made is because of this conflict. So not only will everyone be forced to believe that transwomen are women, but there will be punishments simply for believing that some women might not believe this.

This takes fascism, stupidity and electoral suicide to a level I've never seen before

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Lordfrontpaw · 11/02/2020 15:01

Toddlers have the beauty of calling a spade a spade, so no, not toddlers.

littlbrowndog · 11/02/2020 15:01

Maybe it’s liberation from stupidity

littlbrowndog · 11/02/2020 15:01

Jeez who knows what they wan5 liberated from.

I can’t even begin to guess

It’s such a pack of bollocks.

Are they toddlers ?

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 11/02/2020 14:59

Oh fuck me.

"all trans women are subject to misogyny and patriarchal oppression"

The cringingly awful irony of this particular low point within the document, just turned me into a pretzel.

Fuck me. I am rendered inarticulate because, really, where do you start?!

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 11/02/2020 14:59

Ugh ugh ugh.

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