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Bbc article about filmed rape on pornhub

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ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 10/02/2020 09:12

www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51391981

Trigger warning - graphic descriptions of sexual violence.

This article has really disturbed me. Her description of her state after the attack, bloodied and beaten, and the police asking her "was it consensual? Was it a wild night gone too far?" And after it was discovered that the footage was on pornhub, how her classmates not only watched it but bullied her over it, with parents telling their sons to stay away from her in case she "seduced them and accused them of rape". This is footage of an unconscious 14 year old beaten to within an inch of her life being violently raped, and people still blamed her and accused her of lying. And how it took so long for pornhub to take the footage down, only when she pretended to be a lawyer. What chance does the victim of revenge porn, or the rape which didn't leave her almost dead, or where their was initially consent have, when even such an extreme and clear example of rape is treated this way?

The thing that shocked me most though is that pornhub still has videos up titled "unconscious teen gets abused" with the justification that it's a "popular fantasy" and "all forms of sexual expression should be allowed". It's so revolting to me that any man could be aroused by that. Without doubt a lot of men who watch porn are watching rape and they just don't give a shit.

I don't know how we come back from this. I was reading an autobiography the other day where the author was describing visiting a porn shop in the 80s, and how the feminist bookshop opposite would put cameras in their window to catch and shame men who went in their. It made me realise that if we weren't able to get a handle on porn back then, when it was actual shops not the Internet, when feminism was united on the issue, when the images of extreme abuse weren't mainstream, how can we ever hope to now? How can we even begin to put the genie back in the bottle? And if we can't - if porn, even extreme violent porn, can't be stopped - then where do we go from here?

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peachgreen · 10/02/2020 13:01

Yes, I read this article too. Awful. I wish I knew what the answer is. I have a toddler and it terrifies me that she'll be exposed to this kind of material from such a young age, no matter what I try and do to protect her.

NotTerfNorCis · 10/02/2020 13:01

all forms of sexual expression should be allowed

Even actual rape of minors? That's self-serving in the extreme. Somebody needs to step in.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 10/02/2020 12:57

I read this too, it's just horrific.

How long do we think we'll be waiting for porn fans and freedom of sexual expression types to pop along and tell us we're being unreasonable? Angry

And despite that odd post on a thread a few weeks ago claiming something along the lines that women were Pornhubs biggest user group (total bollocks, FFS) I agree with littlebrowndog, it's men watching this, men who have sisters, mums, wives, girlfriends and daughters. They have blood on their hands.

Balkinfly · 10/02/2020 12:54

There definitely needs to be greater regulation around these sites and the making and distrubution of porn. Sites need to be accessed through strict tight controls. I think it should be banned from mainstream internet until all porn on sit e can be verified etc.

I also think porn should not be easily accessed via the internet.

megletthesecond · 10/02/2020 12:41

I read it earlier and was shocked. Properly shocked.
That poor girl.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 10/02/2020 12:39

Totally agree with you both. I accidentally posted this thread twice though so there's another one (same title) with some more replies. I can't figure out how to link to it from the app though.

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QuentinWinters · 10/02/2020 12:19

Pornhub are disgusting and like to act like they are "ethical". In their statement in the article above they even say that the violent porn they host is "protected by free speech".

I'm so sick of it, I asked Jess Philip's and Keir Starmer a question about it on the webchats and was ignored twice, it is clear that those in power are happy to leave these porn giants hosting and promoting content that harms women actively (by showing a rape) and passively (by suggesting that it is normal to be aroused by violence/degradation of women).

I can't take anyone seriously who says they are a feminist if they support these sites.

No doubt some porn apologists will be along to tell us how their right to wank is more important than girls rights not to be raped and have films of it shared on the internet. Angry

littlbrowndog · 10/02/2020 11:35

Yeah. Porn is not empowering

Terrible for that girl and well I can’t express my horror that dads brothers uncles watch this horrific porn and get a kick from this.

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