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Helen Joyce interviewed by Benjamin Boyce: Gender, Journalism and Justice

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/02/2020 10:24

The brilliant Helen Joyce talks about free speech, the role of journalism, regulatory capture and the nature of gender identity ideology.

Can't wait to read her book.

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mement0mori · 10/02/2020 10:48

This was a great interview thanks for posting.

Cuntysnark · 09/02/2020 22:46

I didn’t go to her workshop & cant wait for the write up.

ArranUpsideDown · 09/02/2020 20:14

If you weren't at Helen Joyce's workshop at #WomensLiberation2020 then I think you'll also enjoy her write-up of it when it's ready.

ThePurported · 09/02/2020 19:27

Helen Joyce articulates the issues brilliantly in this interview. I can't wait to read her book, hope it's coming out soon!

GrinitchSpinach · 08/02/2020 18:22

This is a great interview. Helen Joyce is a Star. I loved what she had to say about logical inconsistencies within gender identity ideology; the current state of journalism; the positive outcome of the rebirth of feminism.

It makes me sad that I felt more comfortable posting my reservations about Boyce on Spinster first rather than Mumsnet.

Anyway, short take:

Joyce is wonderful. Boyce still doesn't quite get it that it is a positive and even joyful thing in itself for women to assemble and speak about their unvarnished experiences, even if many of those have been negative experiences.

ArranUpsideDown · 08/02/2020 18:05

Maya Forstater has positive comments about the interview in a Twitter thread and (understandably) mentions HJ's mathematical take:

twitter.com/MForstater/status/1226111658331865097

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/02/2020 13:52

I adore that HJ says she wasn't radicalized by MN but she would have been if she'd been on here (at that point in her life).

Yes I forgot to mention the shout out to MN in my description Smile

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ArranUpsideDown · 08/02/2020 12:24

Yes!

I also liked the closing discussion of Jonathan Haidt, heterodoxy, and free speech. I would be delighted if those ideas were developed further.

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/02/2020 12:08

Yes, I love how she sees it through mathematical analysis.

ArranUpsideDown · 08/02/2020 11:59

This is an interesting and thought-provoking dialogue.

I like the argument for engaging in conversations with conservatives and people along the spectrum of attitudes.

And I was very struck by Helen J's arguments about coverage of women's lives/issues being split up along our episodic periods in our lives (motherhood, menopause etc.). And this means women are effectively a minority interest in media coverage because news stories focus on us in the category of an episode. She was excellent on this in her #WomensLiberation2020 workshop but I don't want to summarise that here as she's writing it up.

I adore that HJ says she wasn't radicalized by MN but she would have been if she'd been on here (at that point in her life).

As a general note - the subtitles on this are superb. I can't tell you what a difference this facility makes to my life.

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