Pronouns in my email signature

"sorry, I'm not clear on what this is about. Is it something to do with my genitals?"

FFS

I'd just tell them that gender is a bullshit social construct and it's fucking offensive for them to wonder what I am as I'm clearly FEMALE.

Sick of this utter bullshit, honestly.

What happens if you act stupid (probably not acting in my case) and say "er well...if you want to be formal call me Mrs Cann otherwise I'm quite happy with my nickname Fanny"?

I hope she doesn't mind if I C&P her post:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632606-Your-pronouns

Would pronouns count as "sensitive data" under GDPR? And would it therefore be fine to volunteer them and not for employers to require them, especially to require them to be advertised in communications?

One transactivist has certainly worried about this before!

twitter.com/miss_s_b/status/976379005921357825

The definition of sensitive personal data under GDPR is data consisting of racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, or trade union membership, genetic data, biometric data, data concerning health or data concerning a natural person's sex life or sexual orientation.

www.burges-salmon.com/news-and-insight/legal-updates/gdpr-personal-data-and-sensitive-personal-data/

If your pronouns are held to reflect your inner psychological state of "gender identity", they might count as at least one of

*Privileged medical data under both the Data Protection Act as they disclose information that only a mental health professional might normally know. Compare the state of "feeling female", if that is indeed possible, to the state of feeling depressed.

*A privileged political opinion, religious or philosophical belief, namely that gender identity is something you can or cannot have. If you have the philosophical belief that you cannot determine your own pronouns, asking you for your pronouns forces you to disclose this sensitive data, and requiring them may also force you to lie (in breach of EHR article 9).

The corollary is that any organisation which stores pronouns would also be in receipt of such sensitive medical or philosophical information and would be counted as a data controller under the GDPR, and must obey the conditions for processing sensitive data (broadly, that the storage must be necessary for carrying out obligations), with very large fines issued for breaches. Organisations must issue extensive record keeping principles to show they are satisfying the principle of lawful processing. See:
www.burges-salmon.com/news-and-insight/legal-updates/gdpr-data-protection-principles/

This has not been tested in court and is my general ignorant musing interpretation only. Just throwing it out there!

I think a former FWR poster has mentioned it's potentially a breach of GDPR to make people state their gender.
You could be 'outing' someone as trans who isn't ready to come out.

Has an equalities impact assessment been carried out to ensure that this change won't disadvantage any of the groups with protected characteristics in the Equality Act, e.g. people with autism, women.

Came on to say this.

I have a gender neutral name and like that it’s ambiguous what sex I am when dealing with people over email. Sadly it does make a difference.

I’d just ignore the request tbh, and if I got any push back I’d ask them why and if this was forming part of a new policy, and if so where could I find it?

I would want to say 'are you trying to fuck with my head right now?'

..and 'should I be experiencing cognitivr dissonance'

I also loved the, 'you calling me a man' . ....follow up with request for hr consult.

I was asked to declare my pronouns in an introductory circle. I said that gender was an oppressive construct that I didn’t identify into, but I was comfortable if people referred to me using my sex-based pronouns.
There were two of us out of 20 that made some sort of statement. Everyone else (no trans people present) introduced their sex based pronouns with no trace of irony. Glorious waste of time. No shit, Sherlock.

I frequently deal with trans individuals in my job. There are literally no surprises. I am not blind, nor deaf. And I’m still not having you sharing a bedroom with a woman just because you ticked the F box on the form and have she/her/hers in your signature block, love.

If your line manager asks you in person to update your personal pronouns - look offended, say "are you saying I look like a man!", and run off out the office. When you return ask if your department has a HR contact.

Since people will be addressing you directly in their emails, may I suggest you respond to the request with, You, your, yours?

So how would that work?

“So Mary is going to lead that project, so that (?) c will be the signator. Please make sure that you get (the) c’s signature on all the project plans?” Sounds like a normal exchange in my office to be honest.

I'm going to say my preferred pronoun is "cunt";that will go down well...

“Sex based like my oppression” I have said (with a huge grin) when asked

For this I would probably ignore & if pushed say that I am uncomfortable insisting on how others use language

I will refuse..and face disciplinary over it if needs be!

I’d be so tempted to reply with some twaddle:
I am a post-gender individualist and therefore demand that pronouns are never used used to refer to me, as the use of pronoun DS is counter to my individualism.

E.g. Fairybatman attended board and Fairybatman reported that directors have asked Fairybatman to seek opinion on...

I've just idly googled pronouns in my work inbox and yes it's happening, I just hadn't spotted it

I'd prefer adult/human/female but I want to keep my job

I'd go for
"my pronouns are i/me/my"
Or
"as per my sex"

Why Lord do you assume that isn’t Minges real name? She/he/them/it may have changed it by deed poll (or indeed might have had batshit parents!)

Shame your user name isn’t your real name. That would go rather well...

I've had a change of heart, I will put my preferred pronoun on my emails. I'm going to say my preferred pronoun is "cunt";that will go down well...

Quite.

Male and wants to be called Mr? An ally of what and who, and what does this entail?

For the love of all that’s holy, who gives a flying fig?

Someone at work has their preferred pronouns in their signature. They sent an email round explaining why (they’re male with male pronouns but they’re an ally). And suggested we all might like to follow suit to show that we’re all allies. I ignored. Nothing has happened.

I think it comes more from a complete lack of understanding how language - and indeed reality - works

I agree.
This is certainly true of those who are implementing these policies in universities, workplaces etc
Ive been wondering when the English Language teachers & Linguistics academics will be speaking out.