Pronouns in my email signature

Is there a lanyard specifically for people caught up in the slipstream of a passing purity spiral and desperate to escape?

M&S (of all people) will send you one if needed:

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Please get a sunflower one.

This is for people who can't opt-out of needing additional assistance, and although ist not as sexy/on-trend as the rainbow ones, they don't have a whole month (or six) devoted to how great/brave they are, or parade, or even a special cookie - this is one cause I back 100%.

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I work at an NHS supplier and it's rainbow lanyards ahoy. A staff member came out as non-binary on our intranet to thousands of people and was praised for being brave and stunning. Some of the praisers have put their pronouns in their bio which I will not be doing.

Dear HR,
I have no preferred pronouns.
Others will refer to me as they deem appropriate.
Many thanks.

How about:
When addressing me, please use 'you'.
when talking to third persons about me - you can use whichever pronoun you think fits best.

Three suggestions:

Offer the I, me, mine or you, your, yours pronoun sets, disingenuously pretending you haven't realised they mean third person pronouns;

Get together with all your office eye rollers and overwhelm management by inventing a unique set of third person pronouns for each of you (zhee, zher, zhers etc) and pick line managers up every time they slip up;

Explain that your feelings around your personal gender identity are currently fluid and shifting and it makes you feel very uncomfortable and pressured to be asked to label yourself in this way.

One or other of these will make them back right off.

Why wouldn't you just put your preferred pronoun in? It's just makes life more welcoming and comfortable for trans and non binary ppl and causes no harm to anyone else.

This never-ending trope makes me so embarrassed for people that say it. They have given exactly zero thought or intelligence to the matter, just brainlessly commented with a soundbite someone told them, that they didn't even bother to read more than once.

Sorry - what SciFi film plot are we discussing here?

I think the title might be 'Earth: 2020' ?

My BIL would explode if he had to tell a fib. Seriously - I have never met anyone who is just so damn 'good'.

I was diagnosed with high functioning autism last year, which has given me an explanation for my inconvenient inability to tell lies. I mean I do lie sometimes but I feel very uncomfortable.

I'm also autistic and struggle to say things that I do not believe to be true. Exceptions being: I'm clearly joking/in jest/being sarcastic, or I fluff out my speech with "some might say... Some believe" etc.

I don’t believe it is my place to instruct you on what pronouns to use about me
I see it the other way round, I think: I believe people should have the opportunity to state which pronouns they would like others to use about them.

So someone with a medical diagnosis (whereby lying would actually cause them discomfort and anxiety) could find themselves in a situation where another worker could purposely cause them added anxiety of being hailed off the HR for... saying something that goes against their morals?

Sorry - what SciFi film plot are we discussing here?

Same here, Prawn, and in fact I'm put off taking work from one client who has come out as non-binary because I'd prefer to avoid that particular minefield.

It's not just that 'they' are non-binary but that 'they' are ever so combative and campaigning about the validity of the non-binary identity. (Youngish woman. Short hair, 80s style, otherwise very obviously female. I presume I can still call 'them' a woman, given 'they' aren't claiming to be a man?)

Seems to me there's not much point trying to rewrite anything for precision and clarity while your actual client is determined to confuse the reader.

Honestly, I could see the appeal of using a nice neutral 'Mx' and hoping people therefore won't make sexist assumptions about your ability (though I suspect it's almost entirely used by women, as men tend to benefit from the sexist assumptions...). It's the rest of the guff that beats me.

I feel the same Prawn I feel severe discomfort lying, everything has to be based on reality, it's difficult to explain but I can't pretend something just to be polite, I mean I could avoid a conversation, but I would be distressed to call a man she, it's a physical feeling rather than a rational thought. I've never been diagnosed with anything but I do sometimes wonder.

I'm not able to work anymore. I've pretty much come to terms with it, though it's frustrating. But I'm glad I don't have to deal with this fuckery.

I was diagnosed with high functioning autism last year, which has given me an explanation for my inconvenient inability to tell lies. I mean I do lie sometimes but I feel very uncomfortable.

Because of my disability I don't think I could ever manage to remember to use pronouns that didn't match the person's sex.

Precision in language is my main skill. I've made my living from it. And calling an obviously male person "she" would be really mind bending for me. I'd be so uncomfortable. It would totally stilt my thought process and communication.

I don't know whether my disability would protect me in a work setting.

In a social setting I'd give a wide berth to anyone who insisted on novel pronouns. Too much like hard work. I expect I'm not alone.

This is what we will all be doing

We? Now there's a presumptuous pronoun.

I'd ask them to explain why my pronoun was relevant to my role. It isnt. So it isn't necessary to specify it.

I'd just like to say I agree with me, I'm thinking perhaps my pronouns should be the the same as mine. (Did I get that right ... I'd hate to misgender me,banana. And I'm sure everyone else found this perfectly comprehensible not just me and me
That's the funniest thing I've read on here in a while.
This is what we will all be doing. Replace I, me, mine with xie Xi xer or whatever.
In fact thinking on, "whatever" is a valid pronoun.

Ignore or tell them you don’t want to. What can they do? Force you to comply? By doing so they could be making you suicidal you know, because you are struggling with which pronouns to choose and now you can claim they are committing a hate crime. Fuck it, cause issue for them if they want to be stupid.

BananaFloofBix * Ok I've done this on another thread to make a point.
My pronouns are I, me and mine.
Every time you reply to me anywhere on this site I want you to use those pronouns thanks.
Can everyone else please join in to prove this will get really old really fast.*

I'd just like to say I agree with me, I'm thinking perhaps my pronouns should be the the same as mine. (Did I get that right ... I'd hate to misgender me, banana. And I'm sure everyone else found this perfectly comprehensible not just me and me.)

Be curious how they intend to educate customers to use the correct pronouns ? Presumably there would be a warning, and then customers that can't get with the programme are dropped ?

What's the legal view on how long someone is required to keep a stated point of view (I ask to be mischevious, as I damn well know there isn't one ...) ? Whatever that time period is. maybe there's scope for deciding to change you preferred pronouns a few times a month, with a readiness to jump on anyone who gets it wrong ?

I realise to some it may seem like I'm not taking this seriously ... but as the old joke goes: you started it ...

On so called 'international' pronoun day we were encouraged to put our pronouns in signatures. The way the email was worded though felt emotionally manipulative, something like show your support by putting in your pronouns, so if you didn't you wouldn't be showing support? I did a lot of swearing and most people did eye rolling. Not spotted it in any signatures yet but will be doing a search like another poster did.
If it is not compulsory just ignore it.

How do they expect people to remember? I have a pretty poor memory.

Will HR provide a list to cross check against when writing emails? I'm not kidding many people have a large contact circle, including people they don't actually know personally/ haven't met. I suppose the easiest way is just to refer to everyone by name or initials? In conversation it's going to be hard though.

I have a hard enough time remembering people's names.

Is this being pushed by people who are better at remembering things about other people? Because that is a skill (which IME is important for some roles eg business development, hr) but nor all people have by a long chalk.