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Puzzled - Philip Schofield

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howwillthispanout · 07/02/2020 20:37

Sorry if this has been covered already but I’ve been offline all day - has there been any discussion re PS’s announcement today on this board? Especially in relation to wife and daughters

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kenandbarbie · 08/02/2020 16:15

Just saw this

Puzzled - Philip Schofield
Lordfrontpaw · 08/02/2020 16:02

I wonder if she thought they would grow old together and retire to the sun etc. Her future has just gone pffffft then. She deserves more than ‘companionship’ surely?

GrimDamnFanjo · 08/02/2020 15:51

Hmmm. I do hope that his wife has always been in the know as otherwise the rumours of other relationships may get awkward.
I met a friend of a friend who professed to a dalliance in the early 90s.

Drabarni · 08/02/2020 14:08

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
What were the rumours about him, apart from being a horrible man to work with.

Haworthia · 08/02/2020 14:06

Aw rats, I posted this on the wrong Schofe thread. My post has nothing to do with feminism - sorry Grin

StealthPolarBear · 08/02/2020 14:05

Nice try Hugtheduggee but I don't think trsns men get the brave and stunning adoration in thr way transwomen do.

MadamePewter · 08/02/2020 14:05

@InfiniteSheldon I’d come on to agree with you and saw it deleted.. strange

Haworthia · 08/02/2020 14:02

From December

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/mystery-phillip-schofields-runner-leaving-21062922.amp?__twitter_impression=true

The male runner, who had a close working relationship with Schofe, quit the show earlier this year and is now working on Loose Women - frequently fronted by Ruth Langsford, who has reportedly lodged an official complaint against Phil.

And while ITV has said the runner was promoted, other staff are said to be confused about the move.

"It was odd because they were so close and then he up and went to Loose Women and they didn't seem to be talking much anymore," one insider told the Sun

There’s more on Twitter if you search PS and runner.

InfiniteSheldon · 08/02/2020 14:01

Nothing wrong with my previous post! Outrageous

TinselAngel · 08/02/2020 13:59

I'm still struggling to see how announcing you want to have sex with men instead of your wife, is brave.

Maybe it's necessary for him, fair enough, but it's not brave.

TimeLady · 08/02/2020 13:38

And (cynic that I am) the timing hasn't passed me by, he's been under a bit of criticism and complaint at the end of last year hasn't he? Why is he making such a public deal out of a very private matter?

I agree, I'm not buying the brave and stunning narrative - the timing is very odd. If he has no intent on announcing/pursuing a new relationship (as he himself said) then why on earth did he feel the need to go public? This could have stayed a private matter between him and his wife and family.

Damage limitation pre-empting an unflattering story in the press, or a desire to be viewed as a brave and tortured soul rather than a unpleasant colleague, however, would both be more plausible explanations. Or maybe he's just a self-centred git.

InfiniteSheldon · 08/02/2020 12:35

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 08/02/2020 12:23

I feel for his wife and children

Yes she may have known for years and yes maybe he felt he would change

But who would want so many celebrating your husband being honest about your marriage being a lie and so many pitying you it’s humiliating

I think some other story was about to break about him not being such a nice guy (which I don’t think he is at all) and it’s been turned into a media sob story

Elloello · 08/02/2020 11:35

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NoSquirrels · 08/02/2020 11:26

while some children do manage a relationship with their father post coming out, it is very much dependent n the father to make that relationship work

Indeed. PS's eldest daughter is in fact his manager, so I suspect is invested in 'making it work'. I just don't think you can extrapolate anything at all from the particular situation PS is in about him, his wife or his daughters, or anyone's motivations.

MadamePewter · 08/02/2020 11:21

I don’t give a flying fuck who he shags, but am incensed by the talk of “so brave ”; how the fuck is it brave to go bleating on the tv about your sex life whilst your wife and family are abandoned?

And everyone is forced to be “so supportive” lest they transgress the wokery. I hate the world!

sunshinesupermum · 08/02/2020 10:56

Lordfrontpaw this is how both my adult daughters feel. They have no problem with his being gay but yes, the lies.

sunshinesupermum · 08/02/2020 10:54

I know several women who left their husbands and moved in with other women after having children. They weren't lying to their partners, it was more that they weren't sure, and went along with what society tells you to do, then realised later.

I know several women like this too. It is generally believed that they acknowledge their feelings for women long after men realise the same thing. Often women only realise it after they have had children.

Gronky · 08/02/2020 10:23

Isn't it possible to deeply love someone even if you're not sexually attracted to them? The notion that marriage must involve sexual relations gave us the horrors of rape within marriage being a legal impossibility (amongst a whole host of suffering that predominantly affected women).

deydododatdodontdeydo · 08/02/2020 10:20

I'm surprised by some of these responses.
Anyone who has a gay family member or friend knows that coming out is still a huge deal for most people.
Homophobia is rife and open in schools.
Not to mention how the media and public accept it, depends on the image they have - singer, probably ok, wholesome family entertainer, big scandal.

Also, he may not have been deceitful, sometimes the realisation comes out later in life.
I know several women who left their husbands and moved in with other women after having children. They weren't lying to their partners, it was more that they weren't sure, and went along with what society tells you to do, then realised later.

sunshinesupermum · 08/02/2020 10:15

If Stephanie knew and there were no lies between them as he claimed why wasn’t she there by his side as he revealed the biggest secret of their lives?

Whatever has happened any future she might have planned and looked forward to is now gone and from my experience it takes years to pick yourself up from this. Mentally I never recovered and neither have my two adult daughters. It shook us to the core and the other families I know where this has happened while some children do manage a relationship with their father post coming out, it is very much dependent n the father to make that relationship work. Most of them don't. So hard for our kids, whatever their age.

Hugtheduggee · 08/02/2020 10:11

I have the perfect solution.

Steph utters the magic words 'i believe I am a man' and voilà, Philip is now in a gay marriage with a gay man. He gets to stay in a marriage with someone he clearly loves in some level, and it will be such a relief to him to have a fulfilling sexual relationship with his husband.

Steph can keep her body, her clothes and if she wants to have days where she reverts to being a woman, that's fine, the just says the magic words, and people will publicly acknowledge how stunning and brave she also is, rather than being very much an afterthought as now.

Friendsofmine · 08/02/2020 09:52

Oh I hadn't watched the video before. So I think he just announced the end of his marriage and he and Steph will ultimately divorce. Holly asked about future relationships so they have talked off camera about him one day having a partner openly.

I feel sorry for his wife and now hope she gets on with the divorce, they stay friends if she wants but she goes onto meet someone who makes her feel wanted.

Jillyhilly · 08/02/2020 09:46

shame (can't explain this one)

I don’t think you have to. I would imagine the sense of shame, through no fault of your own, is almost unbearable in these situations.

Christmaspug · 08/02/2020 09:43

I don’t get all the fuss
Do people really care who ps shags?
My only passing thought was for his wife ,he’s lied to her and made a fool of her with his decite