Line Manager just "come out" as Non-binary

Yes and dont forget to report any slip ups to the moderators immediately like the OPs line manager did.

That's fine, but remind me if I forget. There's a lot of people here, so I probably will at some point. Thanks.

@Eckhart
Ok your trying to prove that you can remember to be nice and call the correct people by the correct pronouns.
So for future references my pronouns on this board anywhere;- I, me, mine.
So if you see me anywhere on mumsnet I want you to refer to me with those pronouns ta.
Anyone else want to add theirs?

When people say ‘gender netural’ I think of the old action men and their smooth bulge free undercarriages...

Nobody has sworn or insulted anyone. You are just airing your agenda and everyone can see that. People are just telling you that they find it a silly, immature, attention-seeking one.

I don't get it. Who cares? We've got a gender neutral person in our office and everybody just said 'Oh, ok then' and tries to get it right. Nobody got upset about it.

Because a woman lost her job because she used the wrong pronoun for this person

www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-48295000

and another person policed that language. How lovely everything is happy clappy in your lovely accepting office, but it’s obvious that it takes very little for things to escalate and become an HR problem. I also think everyone in your office but have no form of independent thinking as they are happy to be told what to think and what to say without any challenge to it and its wider implications.

But so what, @YourHighness? People do silly things all the time. If that's the view of what the line manager is doing, who cares? We'd be in a right mess if we got all het-up ever time somebody did something silly at work. If somebody decides they want to be called 'Princess Consuela Banana Hammock', I think that's silly, but I'll call them that without getting all sweary about it.

Eckhart probably because people are getting fed up of being expected to pander to this kind of immature attention seeking behaviour.

We've got a gender neutral person in our office

No you haven't.

but what I am incandescent about is being called out in front of 2 other colleagues.

That's bullying in my workplace. Do you feel bullied OP?

Yes it is if the OP feels bullied into doing it, which she clearly does.

If you're using that kind of argument, you could equally well say the line manager might feel ignoring their pronouns is a form of bullying.

Asking someone to do something, and reminding them when they forget, is not 'bullying' by any stretch of the imagination.

In reality people are getting all pisstake-y because the demands being made of the OP are very silly.

Why are lots of you getting all insulty because someone has requested they be referred to as something different from the 'norm', and issued a reminder? Unless I've missed something, there's been no bullying.

It's like 'This person is asking them to call us 'them'... WHAT A FUCKING ARSE BADGER!!!'

I don't get it. Who cares? We've got a gender neutral person in our office and everybody just said 'Oh, ok then' and tries to get it right. Nobody got upset about it.

And coming back to the married name example, the correct analogy would be:

“Hi Mary, you sent a memo to me and addressed as Miss Narcissa Malfoy, but I got married a few weeks ago. It’s actually Mrs Narcissa Malfoy.”

“Oh did I? Sorry! Didn’t know you got married! Hard to keep up with everything I guess.”

“I’ve notified HR, please don’t do it again or there may be consequences.”

“”

I, me, mine

Go with this one, OP, and if anyone pulls you up on it you could always quote the Bhagavad Gita - say it is a reminder that you are trying to renounce the ego and achieve enlightenment.

For example, 2:71-72 can be translated as "They are forever free who renounce all selfish desires and break away from the ego-cage of 'I', 'me' and 'mine' to be united with the Lord. This is the supreme state. Attain to this, and pass from death to immortality."

Yes it is if the OP feels bullied into doing it, which she clearly does. Tolerance does indeed cut both ways.

Where has the OP said she's been bullied? Being asked to use someone's preferred pronouns and reminded of them when they've been forgotten isn't 'bullying'.

No-one NEEDS to be called thet instead of her when people are talking about them.

People need food, water, air, affection, human contact, a job, to feel valued I'm with totallyfuckedupdamily. This kind of thing is privileged people without much to really worry about making up drama to make themselves feel more special. You don't see homeless people demanding you call them they as you walk past. People in slum villages aren't deciding they are a ze instead of a he.

Good for you, but I prefer to recognise reality and won’t be bullied into using incorrect pronouns in order to appear ‘tolerant’, when I see no tolerance being given in return.

You really think demanding to be addressed in a certain way is seeking support?

It is attention seeking shite TARSCOUT and one of the great things about getting older, is the fact that we can see this navel gazing, self obsession nonsense, for what it is.

I've found the opposite is true. As I've aged, I've become more tolerant of other people's needs and less inclined to dismiss those who are asking for support in some way as 'attention seekers'.

I mean, let's imagine how this would play out.

"Go get me a cup of coffee"

"Of course, respected manager of mine"

"And also the skulls of my enemies, and a gram of cocaine, and Dave from marketing's new car"

"Indeed, mistress, as you command!"

That's good with me, @YourHighness. I respect your preference. Hopefully I won't forget and accidentally call you by your old name, but remind me if I do until I've got in the habit.

I am 9 people's direct line manager. Can I really tell them to do things and they have to by law, regardless of what specifically I'm telling them? That is certainly not what the law says anywhere I've ever lived.

It is attention seeking shite TARSCOUT and one of the great things about getting older, is the fact that we can see this navel gazing, self obsession nonsense, for what it is. I think that these tossers don’t have any genuine problems in their lives and need to create/invent some, so they don’t miss out on any ‘attention’.