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All right then, what do I need to know about Kirk Douglas?

44 replies

Faceicle · 06/02/2020 14:39

I'm getting the impression that he may have been a sexual abuser. Is this so?

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IHaveBrilloHair · 06/02/2020 19:24

I'm not sad he died.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 06/02/2020 19:21

It's still all over Twitter.

I heard this story more than 30 years ago and having read his autobiography, by his own admission he sounds a deeply unpleasant individual in many ways. Apparently Natalie refused to work with him at a later point, citing "personal reasons ". To the best of my knowledge she never did that with anyone else.

PostNowToSaveLater · 06/02/2020 18:44

I find it amazing how quickly the comments have been removed from the internet this afternoon about Kirk Douglas and Natalie Wood and his alleged behaviour towards her. It is quite frightening what rich, powerful lawyers and money can do to stamp out freedom of speech.
It's clear his family loved him, and their bereavement is respected. More than one thing can be true simultaneously. Natalie Wood doesn't seem to have been treated well or had justice.

Dervel · 06/02/2020 17:45

Douglas never received an Academy Award for an individual film but the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences awarded him an honorary Oscar in 1996 for his role as a creative and moral force in the industry

Excuse me whilst I throw up in my mouth a little bit.

puds11 · 06/02/2020 17:34

Wow. Some of the attitudes on this thread are vomit inducing. Also the allegations have been around for ages. Personally I’d rather support the victims of violent rapists than the violent rapists themselves, irrespective of how good their fucking acting is Hmm

Have a word.

NeighbourPooNameChange · 06/02/2020 17:31

notangelina this has been known about for decades. Some media outlets are reporting this as fact. Natalie Wood was hospitalised after her rape. This isn’t anything new and I think all his fans should know about it.

Dervel · 06/02/2020 17:30

I felt this with the Kobe Bryant scenario, we can’t go around venerating rapists. I don’t care how good an actor you are or how good at getting balls in hoops rape is rape.

See I wouldn’t know about about either Kirk nor Kobe were it not for people raising it. I’m glad they did.

NameChange84 · 06/02/2020 17:16

Let him without sin ... is my motto. None of us is perfect and the evil we do does not outweigh the good, imo.

Really? So it’s ok to be a child rapist? We can just blot out a man in his 30s raping a teenage girl for hours, calling her names, threatening her life and her career, spitting on her, slapping and beating her, causing her to be hospitalised because she couldn’t stop bleeding and leaving her traumatised for the rest of her life?

There is NO DOUBT that someone did that to Natalie Wood. And whoever that person is, KD or not, no amount of “good” can ever outweigh that level of evil.

Would you say such things if you was you or your loved one that was so brutally raped and beaten? “Oh well, he did some good too!”

None of us are without sin but thankfully the majority of us are not rapists, abusers or murderers.

CunningOperative · 06/02/2020 17:11

I’m going to show rapists the same respect they showed their victims. None.

Natalie, I believe you, rest in peace.

NameChange84 · 06/02/2020 17:10

I’m 35 and have known about the allegations since I was a teenager. The allegations predate the internet and were already rife at the time of Wood’s death in 1981.

KD’s own autobiography is pretty disgusting. There’s a disturbing passage about him having sex with a woman he suspected of being an anti Semite (seemingly because she was wearing a crucifix Hmm). When he climaxed he yelled at her.

Here is some of it in his own words;

“When it came to sex, Douglas admits he looked at it as if he were on a big game safari in Africa.

“I looked at something and BANG! I had total control. I enjoyed [killing]; the Masai gave me a shield and a spear and called me Killer Douglas.”

In fact, he said he once used sex to punish a woman he knew was an anti-Semite.

He said he took the woman to bed, keeping the fact he was Jewish a secret until the climatic moment, when he screamed:

“I am a Jew! You are being f— by a Jew!”

Even taking the Woods allegations out of it, he had a pretty horrible attitude towards women and sex.

theflushedzebra · 06/02/2020 17:03

funny how all that comes out as soon as the persons gone and can't defend themselves

It's been talked about on MN fo years - that was how I found out about it.

TheSpottedZebra · 06/02/2020 15:08

How many days should we leave it until it is OK to mention that the recently dead (allegedly?) violently raped a child? 1? 3? 10?

WomanBornNotWorn · 06/02/2020 15:04

Check out #NatalieWood which is trending on Twitter.

WeHaveSnowdrops · 06/02/2020 15:03

He was a brilliant actor, much under rated. There is more to him than his sexual history, which is awful.

Dylan Thomas beat his wife and was a drunk. I still love his poetry.

Let him without sin ... is my motto. None of us is perfect and the evil we do does not outweigh the good, imo.

notangelinajolie · 06/02/2020 14:59

FFS show a little bit of respect. The man has just died and his family loved him. Whatever may or may not come out of the cobwebs should surely be left for one day at lest.

Fallen27 · 06/02/2020 14:48

The man died - show some respect to his family - funny how all that comes out as soon as the persons gone and can't defend themselves

Cwenthryth · 06/02/2020 14:46

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WhereYouLeftIt · 06/02/2020 14:40

What has given you this impression?

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