Jameela Jamil comes out as queer

Women seem to come off disproportionately badly in these public shamings unfortunately.

Here's another go at a definition. Queer seems to be people who are outside the category of:
Those who identify as being 100% heterosexual, identify as being 100% cisgender, adopt a 100% stereotypical gender presentation, and are attracted to people of the opposite sex who are 100% heterosexual, identify as being 100% cisgender, adopt a 100% stereotypical gender presentation, and that attraction involves a 100% vanilla sex life.

The real workable definition of queer would seem to be someone who says they are. (Unless the guardians of queerness say otherwise.)

I don't think she's bisexual. I think she's just trying to make herself appear relevant.

Now humming the tune from the musical on the it crowd that Jen tried to sing ‘willies, willies, I love willies..’

Watching that almost killed me as I had a laughing fit so hard I couldn't breathe. Genuinely scary!

It will be interesting to see if JJ is allowed to be queer as she's a female in her 30s.

I’m no fan of Jameela or ‘queer’, but bisexuals are allowed to have boyfriends. I interpreted it as that, although a theythem saga might be entertaining.

Same as me @stillathing

I admired her for her stance on the diet industry etc but she's become so hyper-aware of any perceived slight of any kind against anyone that it's exhausting watching her. God know what it feels like to be her. She's appointed herself as a guardian of trans people, and now that's being called into question she's disappearing instead of engaging.

It's obviously easier to preach from the sidelines than actually get into the messy muddy conversation and work out what your real POV is, not what will give you a fawning tween Insta audience.

Now humming the tune from the musical on the it crowd that Jen tried to sing ‘willies, willies, I love willies..’

Queer, like Pan, has become a useful word for females being bullied as a means of trying to fit into a group the bullies don't target.

When people are afraid and harassed, they lie.

Oooh kinky😊

This is pretty funny.

I do/did like JJ but had to unfollow her on twitter in the end because she got quite nasty. I really try to keep following celebrities who I used to like when they come out as believing in gender ideology because I want to avoid an echo chamber. But they invariably become nasty, almost like they are reading from a script.

Re queer, I suspect I am queer because I don't fancy people for their male gender. In other words I'm a dick fetishist. Don't kink shame me.

there was a thread on twitter from a university lecturer who asked his students to define Queer and was completely agog at the answers. I wish I could find it - it was just full of the most bizzare things but it seemed to boil down to "anyone and everyone who is vaguley different to me"

She does realise that her tribe won’t be interested in her as she ages and isn’t a young and beautiful woman anymore - unless she has an amazing talent (think Liza, Kylie, Streisand...). I can’t think of any other older women like her.

How moronic to point out she has a boyfriend and therefore question whether she is queer. Of course no gay man or gay woman has been in a relationship with a person of the other sex.

Queer seems to mean "identifies as non-straight". Straight seems to mean "those boring people over there, not interesting like us".

I always thought that Q referred to males and not females. Well it was in my day when it was an insult.

I would have thought a dancer or choreographer should judge a dance show surely? Colour, sex and sexuality doesn’t really matter.

Oh yes, Miley Cyrus came out as queer when she got married.
and she cut her hair short.

It is very en vogue.

oh i did laugh when i read this and thought it was a perfect example of a purity spiral in action

the frustrating this is I agree with a lot of what she says about body image and woman shaming and all that but then she also supports Danielle 'suck my dick' Muscato

I do not understand how she simultaneously both does and does not know what a woman is

'Queer' when used by women often means:

Attracted to women but doesn't like the word lesbian.

Or, heterosexual and in a relationship with a man who identifies as a woman.

I’ve only seen her being attacked in response to her school head girl lectures, gender nonsense and her throwing insults at other people. Not that I follow her (she just pops up now and again telling people what to do/think).

She is hideously attacked on twitter. If she is unpleasant to people it is in response to that.
Whatever happened to treat people how you’d like to be treated? Two wrongs don’t make a right?

I don’t follow her closely, but haven’t seen her be ‘hideously attacked’ (which is a fairly violent way to describe people writing words on a screen), I have seen many people disagree with her posts though. And some complete misunderstandings as well, which just made her opponents look daft.

*objectively true is a bit hard to assess for the word queer as it seems to mean whatever you want it to mean.

Sadly you could say the same of ‘woman’ at the mo.

She - well, she has been pretty vocal and unpleasant to people on social media. She didn’t come across as very nice.

She is hideously attacked on twitter. If she is unpleasant to people it is in response to that.