Jameela Jamil comes out as queer

Yes, I realised that *callofdoodee'. Just referring to JJ.

Yes, I think if it's about always having hetero relationships but having had feelings for and experiences with women I am queer. Except I realise there is a lot more to being queer than that and don't claim to be anything on the LGBT spectrum, not because I am ashamed but out of respect for people whose sexuality is genuinely not hetero.

Yes, this is how I feel - I should say I was being ironic in my post earlier.

I don't really get what being part of the culture has to do with presenting the show anyway. I don't think Noel Fielding is a prolific baker and Tess Daly isn't a dancer. It's not required for the job.

There is a bit of a backlash about ‘pan’ from the woke bis, so maybe the younger ones are distancing themselves from it for that reason. Apparently it’s also transphobic, as ‘if you need a different sexuality to include trans people, you’re saying you don’t really see them as their presenting gender’.

This is great and entirely logical. It's going in my notebook of Things To Outwoke With.
I got offended on trans people's behalf on Twitter in response to a TWAW-spouting semi-well-known person getting some basic facts confused. Instead of apologising/correcting herself she blocked me how will she learn to get ahead of the spiral with that sort of behaviour?!

I hope she didn’t just say it and hope it would fly under the radar. Her granny will read it now! ‘What this now dear? So you’re gay now?’

Of course she's queer.

Imagine the horror of being a 'cis-female'!

It’s a BBC news item now. Presumably a quiet news day
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51399416

Ben Hunte’s style of writing feels laborious to read because of the endless definitions.

Agree. Compulsory heterosexuality, and plain old availability of partners due to local demographics play a part. Hopefully we’ve moved past the concept of the only legit bisexual as a polyamorist or someone who does rapid serial monogamy with both sexes (MF sequentially or not valid)

Yes, I think if it's about always having hetero relationships but having had feelings for and experiences with women I am queer. Except I realise there is a lot more to being queer than that and don't claim to be anything on the LGBT spectrum, not because I am ashamed but out of respect for people whose sexuality is genuinely not hetero.

and if she means she is 'bisexual' because she has had some sort of sexual feelings towards another woman at some point, or did bits with another girl at school or something, then fuck it I'm bisexual too as are probably most women.

I'd tend to agree with the direction of your thinking here, but it does seem to run into problems with the very tight definitions that some want to ascribe to labels used to describe sexuality. I would not be at all shocked if that is what she does mean.

The pile-on she's enduring

Good. I hope it continues.

Nobody in this "community" has each other's back, do they?

Nope - they are all willing to slaughter each other in order to win that precious 'Most Woke' crown.

You picks your tribe and takes your chances.

Nobody in this "community" has each other's back, do they? It's much nicer being a feminist.

The pile-on she's enduring is quite ironic really.

I must admit though, I do still have a bit of a soft spot for Jameela...

I thought you meant she'd dyed her hair blue and bleached the roots! That wouldn'tsuit her . I'm guessing she's either lesbian or bisexual in plain English. Not surprised. She and Kristen Bell have some serious chemistry in The Good Place, I always think.

I was already a bit about her emphasis on being a Woman of Colour.

She went to a very posh private girls school in Central London (Queen's College, alumni include Anna Wintour, Jane Asher, Susannah Constantine, Emma Freud, Gertrude Bell, Katherine Mansfield, Jacqueline du Pré and Winston Churchill's daughter).

Presumably to emphasise that she is not a beneficiary of white privilege, but surely socio/economic privilege has at least as much bearing on someone's on someone's relative advantage. The affluent catchment for Queen's College is so international that being "of colour" would not be remotely unusual or remarked on. Very very different from the life experiences of WOC from poorer backgrounds.

'Queer' seems to mean mostly..heterosexual but wants to be seen as special and progressive. Or heterosexual with a liking for bright hairdyes. Or straight male with many fetishes.

Not a word I take at face value at all tbh

Infact most of my mates who actually are LGB hate the word queer as they now see it as both an insult, and the new 'cool gang' that people make ou they are a part of, for attention mostly.

Truly she is ridiculous.

I didn't think Jameela Jamil could get any more insufferably tedious.

But here we are.

Oh that’s amazing @TirisfalPumpkin I love it. Truly there is no end to the purity spiral

There is a bit of a backlash about ‘pan’ from the woke bis, so maybe the younger ones are distancing themselves from it for that reason. Apparently it’s also transphobic, as ‘if you need a different sexuality to include trans people, you’re saying you don’t really see them as their presenting gender’.

Are we taking bets on how long it will be before the term "queer" is deemed abhorrent and somethingphobic? What's the timescale on these purity spirals?

Yes I spotted that after I wrote my post and have been sniggering in the office.

@lordfrontpaw Karma Jameelaeon, surely?

@BorneoBabe and now I'm humming Karma kamma kamma kamma kamma Chameleon...