Emily Thornberry MP web chat

Yep, Emily I can see exactly what kind of a leader and PM you'd make.

And you've given me yet another very good and immediate reason to vote in any way to avoid a Labour govt. Female people have rights too, and your attitude towards them is terrifying.

Snow thank goodness for you and your positivity embracing kittens and rainbows messages on every thread.

Just catching up.

So.

Emily believes in AWSL. We need a woman to be a PM.

And yet

world that is more tolerant and understanding and perhaps has learnt from feminism that we can all be different and it's OK.

So we can't have a different sort of woman pm? The sort with male genes?

And as for that snidey answer about 'Don't fear for your daughter, she may have to share facilities with boys and want a mastectomy but at least she'll be Nicer Than You'!

Words fail me.

That answer about transwomen in men's prisons is almost word for word the answer I got from a friend who is actively involved in campaigning to get a transwoman moved to a women's prison.

I honestly think that Friend had never once thought about the women on the receiving end, just considered the women's prison as a nice empty space, free from men who might bully a vulnerable [client? project?].

Possibly not coincidentally, my friend has a trans stepchild.

My post was definitely on this thread because I didn't post anything on the webchat! And I got deleted for not adhering to the webchat guidelines.

If anyone has any screenshots they would be willing to share with me, please send me a DM. I am going to tweet a LOT about this tomorrow!

Well that was the worst question avoidance I think I've ever seen

As far as I'm aware, that's the first time I've ever had a post deleted.

Ohhhhh, I see the difference. Yes, disappeared, like in a puff of smoke. Like we never said anything at all ...

Yes, the posts from the web chat were not deleted-- in that case the posts would still be there, only marked as deleted by Mumsnet. No, we were completely disappeared. Like re-writing history. What does that sound like?

I guess they wouldn't want to ruin a politician's screen shot for twitter

So Emily is more concerned about the rights of these two not to be in a men's jail ('cos they're so vulnerable?)

than the welfare of the women they may be locked up with??
www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2606211/transgender-killers-sophie-eastwood-alex-stewart-transferred-prison-greenock-polmont/

Women
Women
Women
Women
It's ok to put women's needs FIRST sometimes.

They will cherry pick our posts

They should come here for some tips. This forum is the home of cherry-picking.

Ah, no, it was my post on the webchat that was deleted, Penguin. It can't have been up very long.

I didn't realise they were from this thread. That is bad form. (Apologies, I need to concentrate more!)

The stuff about them not doing further chats is a joke.
I noticed that Kier S screenshot a couple of posts that were complimentary to him and put them on twitter. What a great guy! Winning over the mums!
They will cherry pick our posts and use them to promote themselves.
That's the only reason they are here.
I don't want to be part of this.

MrsSnippyPants, you were actually posting on the webchat thread though.

Scrimshaw and I were posting on this thread, but got deleted for somehow impeding the process of the webchat

Yes, I've been warned, for thanking Emily Thornberry for her comments and asking her what definition of "woman" she was using.

I'm a bad person, clearly.

Me too Penguin and Scrimshaw, even though it did not break the guidelines as I was just asking a respectful question about her use of language (as you can see from the screenshot I took).

Not much point arguing is there, when you are threatened with a ban?

But now that is my adblocker on with a vengeance across all platforms that I access Mumsnet on. You can commoditise me, but you can't make me buy stuff.

Yes, I just had the same email, Penguin. With a threat of suspension for persistent offending.

I'm slightly vague on what the offense was - as far as I remember my post said roughly 'Yes, I'd like to hear an answer to Screaming Beans, too'.

Censored?
Silenced?

I think there should be a new term for those comments that are not just deleted but actually vanish in a puff of smoke as if they were never there. Erased perhaps?

My post on this thread was deleted, according to the email from MNHQ, because it breached webchat guidelines.

So not only do we have to toe the ever more ridiculous line on what can and cannot be said in FWR, we also, when discussing webchats in another part of the site, have to adhere to those guidelines too.

Holy hell. I was not expecting that from her. I wonder who they think is going to support them if they don't change the record?

Sounds like a pet project, Snow. You should approach MN. Don't suggest on here, since we are mere women and must be careful not to ask difficult questions lest we are silenced deleted.