Emily Thornberry MP web chat

I've written a short blog piece about today's webchat. I was hoping to compare her answer to the question put by @rogdmum (about whatever happened to 'The Mordaunt Inquiry') with that given by Keir Starmer; but Emily Thornberry didn't answer it at all.

I'll post it up shortly. Would anyone like the link?

NB my last post refers to the definition of 'women' that most of the real world understands, and doesn't include males/men who identify with the concept of being women. Who are, by definition, a subset of the category males/men (otherwise they wouldn't be able to use the transwoman word.)

Red, nah, mate, we were made of sterner stuff back then, not like these days.

But David surely you were traumatized for ever or infinity or summat

On the one hand, incredibly unsurprising. On the other, incredibly disappointing.

Snowblight
Mumsnet should probably introduce a separate gender subsection to feminist chat to encourage back those women who don't think feminism is all about one issue.

Feminism is about one issue. Women. You know, and we know, and Emily knows what that really means in the real world, despite you and Emily fogging the issue - it's about women. FFS

David what memories do you have of Emily?

None.

Can you imagine if they answered questions about men with concerns about women?

HumphreyCobblers
Those comments that disappear as if they have never been = uncomment

Gosh, that was a let-down! She started so well, with really thoughtful, detailed answers, until she got to the gender questions. How could anyone answer a question about women being forced to be in prison with a male-bodied transwoman, by expressing concern only for the poor TW? Gee, thanks, Emily!

David what memories do you have of Emily?

Well, hello there, Dave. How's things with you?

MN webchats were once legendary, now they're a bit of a damp squib.

Holy suffering fuck, Thornberry is even worse than the others.

Peter Sutcliffe has been seriously assaulted several times in prison, perhaps he should be moved to a women's prison too!

Maybe the Labour party should have t shirts:

People With Penises Are More Important.

As usual with the mens' prisons, never a seconds' thought about 'what could we do about men's prisons to stop them being a hell hole for TW?'

Actually there's a MNetter who has posted having been in a male prison, who explained in detail how it was wholly possible and an every day reality to provide containment and care for a prisoner right away from the male population.

Says a lot that the only response to males in female prisons is to wholly vanish the population the prisons were designed to serve, and refocus them wholly on males. A child could spot the issues. Just no time for any politician this thick.

The 'transwomen will be in danger in mens prisons' when asking about the safety of women if men are imprisoned with them is standard sadly. No cares at all about the women, some of whom have already been raped and sexually assaulted due to this nonsense. Much concern for the poor male person who would be bullied in a male prison for being 'gender non conforming'. However, many men get picked on in mens prisons, for many reasons. Its not right, however, is the solution really to move all of these men (gay men, disabled men, short men, 'pretty men' etc) into the womens prisons instead?! Of course not. Its ridiculous, however its the soundbyte that they think is popular. Any question about womens rights (if allowed to be asked, as apparently womens rights can be summed up in one or two questions and any more is haranguing ) will be responded to with the ridiculous 'trans rights are human rights' nonsense. Of course they are, thats not the fucking question...caring about women appears to be becoming taboo. And MN and their new guidelines, banning regular FWR posters who post decently;y (never saw lang insult anyone, ever) seem to be complicit. I can't see it any other way. I understand they have come under massive pressure for years now for letting women speak, so I do wonder whats changed recently? Why the capitulating to MRAs, rather than standing up to them, as has been done in the past?

I was reading the end of the webchat as it was happening (By the time I'd typed my post, it had been finished and locked down) and I didn't even see those posts that were erased. They must have been absolutely on top of them.

Oh my, so today I have had my first web chat uncomment.

Like being blooded.

Those comments that disappear as if they have never been = uncomment

Just been reading 1984

And that was before we got to the gem of the primary purpose of female prisons being, in Emily's opinion, to safeguard males.

There just aren't enough biscuits.

Her walloping great gaff about virtuously setting out 'policy shouldn't be made in back rooms' and 'we must talk to the voters and represent their real needs' and then demonstrating 'But THAT policy definitely needs to come from the back room' and 'But not THOSE voters' and 'but only the 'real needs' the back room made policies agree with' was a bit painful really.

Mine was about David the Dinner Lady.

Well I wonder who reported that, Scrim ?

And who would not want that to be seen? Hmm. It's a puzzle.

Oh, hold on, my message was deleted on this thread, too. I have no idea why. Don't even remember what it said. Doubt it was inflammatory.

I thought MN's email was talking about the disappeared post on the webchat.

• Wait, was it one about a dinner lady? Seriously?!