Ian Paterson recall of 11,000 patients

Spire takes NHS referrals, I've read?

@smileylottie87

I don't know what prompted the original enquiry but it is a matter of record that the GMC struck him off in 2012 but Spire Healthcare allowed him to continue operating on private patients. There is a class action by 350 Spire patients ongoing.

Sarah Jane Downing

coventryobserver.co.uk/news/reaction-paterson-survivors-and-their-lawyers-speak-out-on-inquiry-findings/

Did anyone see the woman interviewed from the Paterson survivors' group? She was very articulate, and I found her testimony very moving. I'll try and find her.

And what an absolute bloody disgrace that this horrific scandal - long-term, plain sight, fucking hugely unlawful - happened in front of medical staff, managers and regulators.

But they'll all get their NHS pensions, while a few deputy head roll.

That's absolutely terrifying. Those poor women - the psychological harm of a false cancer diagnosis, plus the surgery. It's unconscionable.

I'm glad he got 20 years. Means he will serve 10.

I wish I could believe much would change. Looking at the Bristol Infirmary heart scandal, and the numerous maternity scandals, I'm not so sure, sadly.

I spent a lot of time in hosp as a child, in s specialist hospital. A long time ago but doubt dynamics have changed much. Surgeons were God, essentially. The positional and expert power that my surgeon weilded was massive.

It's not realistic to encourage / hope patients will ask questions etc. There are always vulnerable people who can't do that and in the face of 'God' most people will take the expert advice.

This is a massive failing across all the places this man worked.

Misogyny is such a routine backdrop to people's lives it's often barely even noticed, let alone challenged.

I wonder how this kind of thing can be avoided? Checks and balances. Good safeguarding. The voices of women some fucking how being given more weight?

I read somewhere that some staff are being reported to their professional bodies and rightly so, I'm afraid it doesn't surprise me that he got away with it as it's so difficult to raise even minor concerns, especially if you are relatively junior- the safeguarding culture of 'think the unthinkable' just isn't there

Just to say that Shaun Lintern has been dogged about pursuing stories relating to patient safety and some of the stories he's revealed (maternity units etc.) have been a complete heartbreak. He was formerly with the HSJ but now at The Independent and he's outstanding.

I'm a massive Shaun Lintern fan.

Journalism at its finest.

Why so aggressive fistful?

'I am certain it will be a form of mental illness - and probably a complex one at that.' is hardly a nuanced statement!

As a Psychiatrist, I have to say I don’t read anything in this (yet) that points to serious mental illness.

The majority of bad things in the world are done by bad people. Not ill people. Sadly, mentally ill people are more likely to be victims than perpetrators.

That’s not to say that there might not be interesting psychological reasons behind his actions...but that’s not the same thing as being ill/ having a mental disorder.

@FrogsFrogs. Once again, mental health does NOT = exoneration or excusal. But feel free to ride roughshod over any nuance to drive your point home.

This is exactly why you have to advocate for yourself and not blindingly trust health professionals. Not everyone is there to help you, even when they say they are. The amount of blind trust afforded to doctors ect because they have a white coat is astounding and we really should question and research things ourselves. My heart goes out to those poor people who were affected by this man and the collection of failings by the NHS.

Not saying people with mhps aren't normal hence the quotes! Hope my meaning is clear.

Making excuses for men who abuse women is a distraction

Lots of mentally ill people don't hurt anyone
Throughout human history awful things have been done by 'normal' people

He says the healthcare system was dysfunctional at every level when it came to keeping patients safe. And this was less than a decade ago.

Just to say that Shaun Lintern has been dogged about pursuing stories relating to patient safety and some of the stories he's revealed (maternity units etc.) have been a complete heartbreak. He was formerly with the HSJ but now at The Independent and he's outstanding.

twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1224624880953544704?

What is clear to me is that he hates women, and that hate has been acted in out in a manner that not only brings them mental and physical anguish, but also desecrates their bodies - more specifically a part of the body that is synonymous with 'mother' and nourishment.

Why are those two things mutually exclusive in your mind, @FrogsFrogs.

Psychopathy/sociopathy is a mental illness - and describes a lot of men with a lot of power who do what they please. As I was clear to point out, it in no way exonerates him. But what he did is not on the scale of normal behaviour.

Why mental illness

Rather than a man with a lot of power who did what he pleased

Narcissistic God complex in a stupid man. There, diagnosed.

Sickening. The "cleavage sparing" surgeries, that left tissue behind which caused deaths! What the fuck? I've had breast surgery, never heard anything like it. They take your nipples to be sure. Not enough opportunities for a second opinion in the NHS. You get what you're given and that's that. My sympathies to the women who were stuck with him.

Some men are psychopaths. Some doctors are psychopaths. And some psychopaths REALLY hate women.

I can't believe it, I genuinely don't understand what would drive someone to do this. Why perform the unnecessary surgeries?

I'm not exonerating him at all when I say this, but I am certain it will be a form of mental illness - and probably a complex one at that.