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Drag Queen Story Time at the British Library

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TundraDweller · 04/02/2020 10:17

Three Drag Queen Story Times in one day -

www.bl.uk/events/family-day-young-rebels

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Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 19:35

No fish ‘jokes’ either.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 04/02/2020 19:34

I'd imagine they make a lot more risqué comments/ jokes than the drag queens who do these storytime sessions

And yet they don't.
Unless I've missed one where widow twanky is called dryer fanny and calls children on stage and gets them to roll around the floor with her.

terfsandwich · 04/02/2020 19:33

Autumn, in practice, it means blurring boundaries and getting rid of order and logic.
The Dewey Decimal System is still used, but maps are not provided saying where numbers may be found. Instead there are labels with nebulous categories such as "Travel" and "Law".
When I complained I was told that research had found that x% of library users were browsers so it was geared towards them. But my feedback suggesting a map would be raised at the committee meeting in 9 months time.

To qualify as a librarian now you must pay for an expensive postgraduate degree, and this is the consequence: organisation of libraries has "theories" and "decolonisation of Western hetero normative constructs" and all other kinds of bullshit.

What it all boils down to for me is that I can never find the fucking books I want.

Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 19:32

Well yes, they aren’t alone with the children but I have seen some photos and videos of some story time behaviour that wouldn’t happen elsewhere ‘yes Jessica, just go and lie on top of that complete stranger over there’ ‘look Timmy - the nice man is going to show you how to twerk!’.

Imnobody4 · 04/02/2020 19:31

So what did the British Library put on for children for International Women's Day. After all 50%of children are female, don't they deserve a targetted programme to challenge sexist stereotypes.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 04/02/2020 19:31

I have tried to understand queer theory, must be thick, but got nowhere. I’m not sure what “queering the library” even means.

Put simply and basically it's "introducing sex and sexual activities to"

SaltLampBae · 04/02/2020 19:30

Just wondered - would everybody who is so staunchly against this not take their child to a pantomime? Most family pantomimes often feature a man dressed up as a woman, don't they? I'd imagine they make a lot more risqué comments/ jokes than the drag queens who do these storytime sessions.

This isn't a new thing, is it?

PaintedLadyInBlue · 04/02/2020 19:29

If I took my youngest - 8- to this he’d be completely mortified and outraged because he doesn’t want to see grown ups in underwear/scanty clothes.

This is because he knows there is no good reason for grown ups to be displaying themselves to him, semi-clad. He’s had all the “private parts” talks at school and doesn't want to see anyone’s undies.

The organisers of these events are getting away with this because it’s pushed on children who are too young to recognise and express discomfort, because they are too young to have been taught about danger from adults, and boundaries.

Which is called grooming.

OhHolyJesus · 04/02/2020 19:29

On DBS checks I've been told:

"Our safer staffing team do not require DBS checks to be made for any such events. This is also the case for the other story times and events"

So my understanding is because the DQ isn't alone with the children and is with the parents or an guardian then a DBS is not required.

Good isn't it that everyone is taking safeguarding so seriously?! Confused

SophocIestheFox · 04/02/2020 19:28

Reposting my post from before as MNHQ kindly withdrew it as it showed my browsing history, doh! Grin

Here’s the first picture on the home page of Shay Shay, who will be appearing at the National Maritime Museum.

This act is clearly not for children.

Has everyone lost their damn mind? Fucking hellfire.

In a club? Fine. At a party? Fine. At a drag brunch? Fine. I wouldn’t want to see it, but other people might. At an event for children at a family oriented museum? Nope. Not fine

AutumnRose1 · 04/02/2020 19:24

terfsandwich I have tried to understand queer theory, must be thick, but got nowhere. I’m not sure what “queering the library” even means.

Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 19:24

I would have thought the navy was trying to shake off that old image... and that’s a merman surely? Aren’t they a thing?

AutumnRose1 · 04/02/2020 19:22

sophocles phew!

SophocIestheFox · 04/02/2020 19:21

The pic is from Shay Shay’s website, so no, it’s not being used as promotional material for the show autumn. It was the first image that come up when I googled his name. This is the exhibition

www.rmg.co.uk/see-do/exhibitions-events/out-at-sea

I don’t know who the performer pictured (a mermaid) is.

terfsandwich · 04/02/2020 19:19

I'm in Oz where libraries have not been losing funding. Conversely they've been expanding due to increased house prices meaning more revenue for local councils.
Librarians are often TRAs: I know some who retrained as librarians and FB feeds are full of chortling anecdotes about Queering the library and recruiting (not their word!) teenagers.
I also know a gay school librarian (he's very understated, not a TRA or woke) who is, in good faith, buying lots of trans YA texts to expand the "LGBTI" category. He often has these new books on the display. None are about sexuality that I've observed. Mostly "groundbreaking non-binary" blah.

Another local library does all the trans visibility stuff, lanyards etc, and very Interestingly when I surveyed the feminism section there were no second wave texts, but there were American TRA texts and quite a lot of libfem "my hijab is empoweringly feminist" type books.

It would be good to have a conversation on here to establish patterns about how TRAs have colonised libraries.

Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 19:18

The british library mentions is in the agenda - just title and times - so I completely missed it the first time, as I imaging a few parents and nannies booking it would have too (things like this are like goldfish here so you book as soon as they are available).

AutumnRose1 · 04/02/2020 19:16

Sophocles I can’t see the pic properly or find the event

It’s literally the accompanying pic for a kids event?

OhHolyJesus · 04/02/2020 19:15

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Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 19:10

Well, I hope the little kiddies do ask the questions and make the comments that only a small child can.

GrinitchSpinach · 04/02/2020 19:08

Fuuuuuucking hell, Sophocles.

littlbrowndog · 04/02/2020 19:06

So woke so woke brains have fallen out

SophocIestheFox · 04/02/2020 19:03

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 04/02/2020 19:00

It's absolutely not appropriate at all. In fact, I'd argue that it's grooming. Drag is a sexualised form of specifically adults-only entertainment and you'd have to be batshit to think it's in any way acceptable to use it for kids.

And now my local Museum of Liverpool is laying one on too . I'm going to have to send in a complaint. Unfortunately, Liverpool museums exhibit a level of wokeness that far outstrips the city's inhabitants.

HandsOffMyLangCleg · 04/02/2020 18:52

Yy Clymene
When it comes to safeguarding we can see how so many organisations, like the NSPCC, are so punch drunk with being kind to some men that the usual child safeguarding rules do not apply.

Lordfrontpaw · 04/02/2020 18:49

With the whole dead naming thing - can a potential employer even ask?

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