Teen with Aspergers convicted of transgender hate crime, he asked is that a boy or a girl.

People have been punished less for having child abuse images on their laptops. I'm sure those children feel more than just 'embarrassed' about their abuse and these beasts that contribute to it all by obtaining and asking for these sick images. We as a nation and justice system really do need to get a bloody grip!

Snowblight what? A hate crime on a similar scale of a mildly upsetting comment? Do give your head a wobble and stop being so ridiculous. Goady AF.

Do you have anything to contribute on the topic at hand, or just want to tell women off for discussing something you don’t want them to discuss?

Another thread where the only reason an incident is being picked apart and belittled is because the person involved was trans. If a hate crime on a similar scale had involved a member of any other minority group you wouldn't even mention it.

Another officer told me that they basically have to accept the high chance of being assaulted because it goes with the territory.
Yup, the biting incident was one of at least 4 significant assaults my family member has experienced in the last 12 months alone. Broken bones, HIV exposure etc, none of it is seen as unusual or shocking to them.
2 of the assaults attracted higher tariffs due to being aggravated/‘hate’ crimes, btw, one on grounds of race, one on grounds of sexuality. Officer is white and heterosexual, but if the offender uses specific language, then ‘hate crime’ gets added to the offence. Although an offence has already been committed (usually half a dozen offences by the time assaulting a police officer happens). The -ism isn’t actually an offence in itself.

Assaulting a police officer attracts lesser sentences than assaulting anyone else, as well.

So it is now a crime for a person with a learning disability to question someone's appearance if it is outside the norm.

Aspergers isn't a learning disability, it's a developmental disorder.

And you'd need some sort of evidence to argue that it was done for hateful reasons?

Its defined by if its perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice towards a person who is transgender

This was one of the aspects of Harry Miller/Fair Cop Judicial Review

Well obviously being bitten as a no trans person isn't anywhere near as bad as having your feelings hurt if you're wearing the special badge of transgender.

You need thick skin and the ability not to take things personally, often even when they are meant personally.
God absolutely. Police officers deal with masses of targetted abuse, and have to do so calmly and dispassionately. Not get too scared to do solo patrol because someone asked if they were male or female.

This is bananas.

£590!!!!!!

Family member is a full Met police officer, was bitten by an arrestee and they were fined under £200 for that. For actual intentional bodily harm to an officer. And nearly 3 times that for being unfamiliar with a complex social concept, confused and a bit rude (due to a diagnosed condition), and accidentally upsetting someone’s snowflake feelz. Grr.

Anyway, clearly this individual is in no way cut out for that job. You need thick skin and the ability not to take things personally, often even when they are meant personally.

Even from someone non-autistic, surely a statement like that would fall under rudeness, rather than being a hate crime, at least in most cases? And you'd need some sort of evidence to argue that it was done for hateful reasons?

*crimes

The police really do look after thier own. Assault, burglary, rape and other real crimed get ignored and yet this makes it to court.

In October 2018, PCSO Connor Freel spoke with BBC about having received abuse as an isolated teenager & how hate crime wont be tolerated: www.facebook.com/BBCWalesNews/posts/1920692057996872

He should really be classed as a vulnerable adult - not punished like this for the hurting the feelings of a PCSO. I feel exactly the same sense of injustice as the boy who was expelled over the "there are only two genders" thing.

Yesterday's Guardian CPS decision making & Emily Hunt's fight for justice:
concludes
"Harriet Wistrich, the director of the Centre for Women’s Justice, said: “We would like to know why the CPS chose to argue opposite points in two separate cases. As a publicly funded body, they have a duty to act consistently and in the public interest.

“In the context of significant reductions in the number of sexual offences prosecuted by the CPS, it is disappointing that they put limited resources into fighting cases for the sake of an argument where complainants have suffered significant trauma and deserve their cases to be put before a jury”.

amp.theguardian.com/law/2020/jan/28/filming-partner-without-their-consent-during-sex-ruled-a-criminal-offence?

Well clearly, making a young person with a disability the poster boy for hate crime will teach people a lesson won't it?

I don't think this thread should be in FWR actually. Everyone needs to see where this mad ideology is learning.

It's fucking insane. I have been genuinely worried that my autistic child might identify as trans (in the last year, he's told me he's asexual and then bisexual and he's only 12 but desperately trying to fit) and now I have to worry that he might say something inappropriate loudly (which he does). I guess I just have to hope that one of PCSO Freel's mates doesn't hear or it's off to the gulag with him!

Oxford police beat you to it.

Bring back Morse. He’d have had nothing to do with this nonsense!

Stay safe Stickerwoman! Wherever you are.

So violent porn is covered under freedom of speech, but this is a hate crime?

@BadgertheBodger Yes, I know many people on the spectrum - my DC, my nephew, and my cousin. I also have several friends with diagnoses. @FainaSnowChild His diagnosis wasn't used in mitigation because he denies having said it all.

from CPS news site:
Transphobic hate crime results in increased sentence for Mold teenager
(extract)
"In 2018-2019, the CPS secured convictions in 84 per cent of the hate crime cases it prosecuted and, due to the severity of hate crime, the courts increased the sentences handed down in 74 per cent of these convictions.

Greg George, Head of Diversity at North Wales Police said: “The sentence reflects the importance of holding individuals to account when they commit hate crime.

“I hope the outcome demonstrates that we take these types of offences extremely seriously and always do everything in our power to bring offenders to justice.

“I would encourage anyone who has been subject to a similar ordeal to come forward and report it to the police.”

Notes to editors
Edwards Marsh is a Senior Crown Prosecutor and is the Hate Crime Coordinator for CPS Cymru-Wales
Sentence took place on 29 January 2020
Declan Armstrong (XXX) was convicted of an offence contrary to section 4(A)(1) and (5) of the Public Order Act 1986 - using abusive or insulting words with intent to cause harassment"
www.cps.gov.uk/cymruwales/news/transphobic-hate-crime-results-increased-sentence-mold-teenager

No words. If only this young man could counter claim as his protected disability wasn't considered at all.