Teen with Aspergers convicted of transgender hate crime, he asked is that a boy or a girl.

How long have they been trans I wonder?

Pretty standard to get unwanted and abusive comments for women, from early teens onwards.

Street harassment that we - girls and women - learn to deal with from the age of - well, I think I was 13 when I was first cat-called on the street.

For us, it's just normal everyday sexism and misogyny. So "normal" we rarely name it as a problem.

For shouting out, to a cop, "is that a boy or a girl"

Imagine how empty the streets would be after 9pm if they imposed a curfew on young men who shout the far far far worse stuff at young girls and women every single day.

But street harassment of women is, apparently, not a hate crime.

“To have something shouted at him that had such personal connotations whilst he was on his own in the middle of a public place that was rather busy due to market day footfall did leave him vulnerable, distressed, and embarrassed.” She said it had left him reluctant to undertake foot patrols on his own.

Today was the first day in a week I didn't get much worse comments than this. I'm a bloody teacher, not a police officer.

How would this person cope with an actual abusive comment, let alone violence?

This is the type of hate crime legislation which I think is dangerous.

Would asking that question (albeit loudly and rudely) be a crime if the protected class was not involved?

If not, how do you assess intent to harrass from one incident which could simply be tactlessness?

Well, that dashes the whole ‘trans men pass’ argument.

Poor kid. My autistic 19 year old would probably do the same. Transgenderism is ableist!

Yes, it's astonishing AnyOldSpartabix. For example:

A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person ... distress, he uses ... insulting words ... thereby causing that or another person ... distress.

But the real injustice of this is that the Police and the CPS will only act if the victim is a favourite of theirs. If they're not then they can fuck off.

Wow nauticant!

”Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.”

How long before Woman: Adult Human Female T-shirts and Women don’t have penises stickers are criminalised?

Actually, more like section 4A:

Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—

(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
...
thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

And placed on a 9pm curfew for 6 months!! For shouting out, to a cop, "is that a boy or a girl" twice.
My God you should hear to abuse hurtled at police on my country. They harden the fuck up and carry on mostly.

Truly ominous.

Fined £590 Utterly outrageous.

Maybe this:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64

maybe section 5.

I’m pretty sure that’s less of a sentence and fine than “Tara” Woods got for physicalLy assaulting Maria McLaughlan.

I wonder how many people have been prosecuted for shouting racist or sexist abuse at police officers?

I’m confused. What was the public order offence?

The PCSO is a poster boy for the Force:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45890976