Harry Miller describes threats

Thanks OP. Not seen those figures before. It does say that's the number "recorded" - I wonder how many were given any time (as per Harry)?

So back in the dark ages, the police didn't come out for 'just a domestic' - can't they just revise that approach to non-criminal complaints (sort it out amongst yourselves...')

So when they release details of people calling 999 to complain about getting 2 pieces of cod in their fish supper, etc ?

But 27 police forces investigated 87,000 hate incidents that were not crimes during the last five years.

Wow - do you have the source for this?

We witnessed a woman being mugged by two men - one with a gun. I called the police who said that they were very busy, and they arrived about 4 hours later.

The police have never been neutral and impartial. Their job description mentions "Law and Order ", and all too often it is the order part that wins out.

The law and the social order change. These changes often go hand in hand. Not at all long ago, police officers were hanging around in toilets smiling at men in the hope of getting a response. This was a victimless non-crime deemed a threat to the social order.

"Domestics" were no business of the police because they were all part and parcel of enforcing the social order. Children could be abused because no one was ever going to believe a child's word against an adult or society would collapse. Etc.

OP where has that Dorian Lynskey quote come from? Is it in the context of this case?

Well, I'm glad that's all sorted.

Now, I suspect a coffee shop gave me regular coffee yesterday when I asked for decaf. What's the number for the hate crime squad line again? I would like to see the barista jailed, please.

Also, my mum died from possible medical negligence - stuff happens, eh?

So a non crime is more worthy of actual police action than a crime. Glad we've cleared that up.

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Harry has commented this under the article:
It’s odd, isn’t it, that me retweeting a limerick is considered a Hate post, worthy of police intervention from a Constable, an Inspector and the Assistant Chief Constable, but when I reported this, not so much as a PCSO has picked up the phone .

Women on here will not be surprised at the police's failure to take action to yet more threats from the trans lobby.

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done. It's a dreadful state of affairs

This is how they operate. Threats and intimidation - physical and verbal. It doesn't occur to them to behave as decent people do because they're treated by some as a sacred caste. Certain groups and individuals will celebrate them, no matter how dangerous and anti social they are.

I'm assuming, especially seeing as he's an ex-police officer, that Harry kept evidence of these threats and reported them to the authorities?

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

They are, as our much missed Lang Cleg said, a "sacred caste." But this sacred caste hasn't seen enough sunshine yet- I'm still hoping some more will do the trick.

Yep. All activists are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Staggering isn't it?

A limerick questioning transgenderism not remotely against the law = hate. Police all over it checking thinking and making threats it's so serious.

Threats to rape and skin alive which actually is against UK law = meh. Just part of life's rich pattern. Who cares?

Madness. Although a brilliant example to put before the press of the immense double standards involved. Only one side of this debate ever does actual 'hating' and wishing harm on others, while the care for not causing offense or hurting other people's feelings is supposed to be one way only: TRAs certainly never lead by example on the way they demand to be treated by others. What they see as perfectly acceptable to dish out to others would outrage them and cause all hell to break loose if someone dared to reflect it back to them.

And it is done largely based on the security that people like Harry are law abiding, stable people acting within the typical social contract, and therefore will reliably be the adult in the situation. As they haven't stooped to this kind of toddler lashing out since early childhood.

Is the belief that if you're part of a group deemed vulnerable then you couldn't possibly pose a threat to others? Or just that if you do it doesn't matter/they deserve it?

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

Which makes tracking down the retweeter of a bad non limerick directed at no one in particular rather sinister.

Police protecting the most badly treated minority group in the history of the world surely?

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

Isn’t there a police complaints procedure that is independent?

Until the police get their heads out of their orifices and start visiting those who issue threats

Exactly- Harry says he and his family faced threats of being skinned alive and raped. I wonder just how much manpower the police put in to tracking down, and 'having a word' with the perpetrators of actual threats rather than Harry's crime/non-crime of retweeting a limerick or tweeting "Huh?" ?