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Harry Miller in The Times

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 05:41

Harry Miller speaks in The Times about how the police have adopted Stonewall policies, leading to the insanity of crime non crimes

Speaking ahead of the judgment on the case, which is expected early next month, he said: “I am pro-police. I do not think that the people in the police force have looked at this and thought how can we become totalitarian? “In trying to do the right thing and be inclusive, they’ve done absolutely the wrong thing because they sold out on the core principle of not being political. I think that in so doing they’ve subcontracted out their critical thinking to Stonewall [the lobby group for LGBT rights]

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 08:24

Harry comes across as affable and sensible and though he’s clearly outraged, he sounds so reasonable that he will be very hard to challenge. Also as an ex police officer, he’s probably not going to get accusations of being anti-police

Absolutely. Have you seen the Triggernometry interview with him? It is superb. He is an articulate, passionate defender of freedom of speech and his analysis of why the upper echelons of the police have succumbed to Stonewall is insightful. Harry Miller's case highlights the serious threat to freedom of speech and democracy when the police are investigating and recording crime non crimes The more publicity this gets, the better.

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AnyOldSpartabix · 26/01/2020 08:17

I should imagine restricting the guidance would be red rag to a bull. Hopefully many journalists are contacting friendly teachers and will shortly be perusing every detail of the new schools CPS package.

And absolutely, Mossy. I think the police have got way more than they bargained for. Harry comes across as affable and sensible and though he’s clearly outraged, he sounds so reasonable that he will be very hard to challenge. Also as an ex police officer, he’s probably not going to get accusations of being anti-police. Humberside police could not have picked a better (worse?) person to prod if they’d gone out and selected him deliberately.

Mossyrock · 26/01/2020 08:12

Thanks NotBad.

I am so grateful to Harry and FairCop for pursuing this. They really did pick the wrong person to silence.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 26/01/2020 07:53

Thanks for the link.

Great there is the coverage but yes - shame they haven’t referenced the CPS school hate crime guidance.

The guidance is currently restricted - perhaps there will be increased media scrutiny when we can read it.

The comments to the article are interesting.

I did chuckle at WokeBloke’s comment:

‘’This gender identity lunacy knows no bounds. The only genders essential to our species are the two associated with procreation. Everything else is recreation.’’

Agreed. But surely there is a recreational aspect in trying to procreate???!!! Sex (intercourse not biological this time) should be enjoyable as well as functional!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/01/2020 07:17

Thanks, NotBad.

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 06:33

Thank you NotBad I hope this works

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/ex-cop-accused-over-hate-limerick-on-twitter-speaks-out-36xjgdnzw

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NotBadConsidering · 26/01/2020 06:21

On the article you go to the share part, click email, let your phone or whatever open up an email then copy and paste the link it generates. I’ll read it now!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/01/2020 06:14

How do you do a share token?

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 05:57

I apologise, I don't know how to do share token. I will post if someone tells me how!

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 05:53

The article also cites 27 police forces have recorded 87,000 hate incidents in 5 years which are not crimes Why are the police investigating non crimes, while failing to investigate actual crimes? It also cites the school issue

Meanwhile, Sarah Phillimore, a barrister advising Fair Cop, warned that new police and Crown Prosecution Service guidelines will criminalise schoolchildren aged from 11 to 16 for expressing doubts about gender ideology.

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LangSpartacusCleg · 26/01/2020 05:48

Wise old owl.