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Harry Miller in The Times

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BovaryX · 26/01/2020 05:41

Harry Miller speaks in The Times about how the police have adopted Stonewall policies, leading to the insanity of crime non crimes

Speaking ahead of the judgment on the case, which is expected early next month, he said: “I am pro-police. I do not think that the people in the police force have looked at this and thought how can we become totalitarian? “In trying to do the right thing and be inclusive, they’ve done absolutely the wrong thing because they sold out on the core principle of not being political. I think that in so doing they’ve subcontracted out their critical thinking to Stonewall [the lobby group for LGBT rights]

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VortexofBloggery · 14/02/2020 08:01

Good luck Harry

LangClegsInSpace · 14/02/2020 07:57

Good luck Harry!

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 14/02/2020 07:51

Good luck Harry. I think you and your family have been incredibly brave fighting this.

tooyoungat40 · 14/02/2020 07:40

Good luck Harry and Team.

TorkTorkBam · 14/02/2020 07:36

BBC R4 had Harry's case in the headlines and did a short piece too. It was wonderfully sensible.

I am so happy Today staff have finally engaged their brains and found their spines.

TirisfalPumpkin · 14/02/2020 07:23

Thinking of Harry and Kate, and going to be anxious af this morning. I would like to be able to have faith in the system but just don’t any more.

SarahTancredi · 14/02/2020 07:00

Good luck harry I.have feeling its gonna drag this morning. I'm so nervous about the outcome. We know what it should be but we also know that it's the first step in admitting everyones been taken for idiots and I dont think anyones ready for that. And we know that they will say or do anything to stop that happening.

I have ny fingers crossed for you harry and Kate

RuffleCrow · 14/02/2020 06:47

I'm losing faith in democracy and the separation of powers here. The prospect of Britain becoming a police state seems very real. They knew the GRA changes were never going to get through the consultation stage so they changed tact.

When my ex husband tried to kill me, the police declined to investigate.

LizziesTwin · 14/02/2020 06:46

Harry’s judgement is due at 10.30 this morning.

NonnyMouse1337 · 14/02/2020 06:40

Good luck to Harry and Kate! No matter which way the verdict goes, we are all in this for the long haul. Things have gone way out of control with trans ideology and the social justice movement in general, but more and more people are becoming aware of how this is affecting us all, including trans people who are deeply concerned by what's been going on in their name.

This is a tug of war between an authoritarian ideology that has captured political power in various ways and its devoted adherents who care nothing for compromise and reason VS everyone else. Strap yourselves in because it's going to be a bumpy ride before normality is restored. Smile

niceberg · 14/02/2020 06:37

Seems early though. Maybe the headline was that a judgement is due.

niceberg · 14/02/2020 06:35

Just half heard a headline but missed the critical part about what the judgement actually was. Anyone hear it?

DiscontentedWoman · 14/02/2020 06:33

Good luck Harry Smile and thank you

BovaryX · 14/02/2020 06:14

Who could have thought we’d live in a time where people are facing legal consequences for saying men can’t be women. While the overwhelming majority of men who commit sexual crimes against women and girls are getting away with it

I know. It's absolutely barking mad. Who would have thought 1984 would be treated not as a warning, but as an instruction manual?

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langclegflavoredbananamush · 14/02/2020 06:02

Harry talked about how much stress this has cost him and his family. I appreciate his integrity so much! And even if Kate wins today, nothing can make up for what she has been put through. Who could have thought we’d live in a time where people are facing legal consequences for saying men can’t be women. While the overwhelming majority of men who commit sexual crimes against women and girls are getting away with it. Bad judgments today would be so fucking discouraging, but either way, we have to just keep pulling...

BovaryX · 14/02/2020 05:04

Good luck Harry. We are all watching and hoping today is a victory for you and freedom of speech.

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mcduffy · 14/02/2020 04:15

Good luck Harry. Thanks for your bravery.

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/02/2020 03:26

Good luck Harry!

Datun · 13/02/2020 23:39

Really hoping Harry gets a great result on Friday. Whatever the outcome, the media has finally woken up and will be watching, as will millions of people concerned about the increasing threat to freedom of speech.

This. Can't be said enough. Win or lose, the cat is out of the bag.

GrandmaMazur · 13/02/2020 23:26

Good luck Harry!

ScapaFlo · 13/02/2020 23:16

I can't bear the suspense. I fear the worst and then the crowing will be utterly sick-making. But I live in hope that an educated person (judge) will look at all this and say WTAF has been going on and how TAF has it got this far? In suitably judge-like language, obvs.

Fallingirl · 13/02/2020 23:03

Good luck to both Harry and Kate tomorrow.

Imnobody4 · 13/02/2020 23:03

Good luck Harry.

Redshoeblueshoe · 13/02/2020 23:01

Good luck Harry

boatyardblues · 13/02/2020 22:49

Good luck tomorrow Harry!