New Year New Judicial Review? CPS Hate Crime Guidance for schools

Due diligence and equality assessment then!

This sounds like it's been cobbled together by raging TRAs on Twitter.

There may be a reason for that.

It has been developed by the CPS in partnership with a number of organisations, including Stonewall, the National Police Chiefs’ Council, Gendered Intelligence and NASUWT.

Fom here:
www.cps.gov.uk/hate-crime-schools-project-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-trans-hate-crime

This is an interesting quote taken from the filming partner post.
“The CPS does not make or decide the law; that is the remit of parliament and the courts respectively. Now that this new authoritative judgment has clarified this point of law, the CPS will review its position in the judicial review brought by Emily Hunt.”
What is the relationship of these guidelines to actual law, have they gone through parliament and been tested in court. Why are they involved?

Can anyone do this, or do you have to somehow prove that you're a teacher in a school?

Well, quite. The CPS website just says “send us an email to request a password”. We aren’t asked to provide a Teacher Reference Number, for example, and how would the CPS validate this anyway?

Not available to parents. Or journalists. Or lawyers. No alarm bells ringing here at all.

"This resource pack has been specifically developed for use in schools and colleges and is designed to be delivered by qualified teachers within the curriculum. As such, it is only available to educators working in school and college environments."

Has anyone ever heard of anything like that anywhere ever?

Well, I’ve requested the top secret password, as I imagine many of us have, but presumably there’s more to it than that.

Can anyone do this, or do you have to somehow prove that you're a teacher in a school?

Can anyone explain how it's the CPS who have got involved in this?

Aren't they supposed to be absolutely shit hot on what constitutes a crime? And whether or not it's likely to lead to a conviction?

This sounds like it's been cobbled together by raging TRAs on Twitter.

Well, I’ve requested the top secret password, as I imagine many of us have, but presumably there’s more to it than that.

So glad to hear you’re on this Spero.

Recruiting to an anti - LBGT hate group or organisation. Do they name them? Does that include the local mosque. Is FPFW a proscribed organisation?
My blood pressure is at a dangerous level

so Girl A can say "I wouldn't want to have to change with a boy"" to Child B. Child C overhearing could assume Girl A was referring to a transgirl (who doesn't actually exist) and then report Girl A for a hate non crime, with no crime and no victim?

Will schools therefore make a female bodied student change/shower with boys?

No, but the approved punishment for said is this:

Well I never thought 2020 would involve mass strikes in schools by girls and female staff, or massed parents pulling their children out of school.

Not divisive and causing massive, major, public trust destroying, very expensive and very tricky to resolve problems where there were none at all.

Score.

For saying no, (whether for right or wrong reasons irrelevant) at the age of 11, to another 11 year old. (Who may, or may not at the time you apply for a job with your employer 10 years later, still be transgender).

That's sane.

What the hell are the CPS thinking? This makes an absolute laughing stock of the whole service. This seriously does appear to be the wishlist of a few males with significant problems including total lack of empathy, loathing of females etc, apparently waved through without anyone checking it against things like actual law and education policy.

Is there any adult still remaining anywhere in Westminster?

I feel sick reading this thread. What happened to consent?

Apart from anything else, forcing kids, against their will, to spend time with other kids won't solve the problem of kids feeling excluded. Everyone knows when someone is only tolerating their presence.

And the victim diesnt even necessarily have to exist as if they werent offended but the complainant was then they are somehow the victim of this non crime crime

So basically it’s open season for girls? Will schools therefore make a female bodied student change/shower with boys?

So if FPFW make a t-shirt that says "Lesbian = same sex attracted female" would the school

a) take the part of the girl who has the right to not be harassed for her sexual orientation

or

b) take the part of the male student who feels this amounts to a hate incident towards him on the basis he identifies as transgender?

Hmm... tricky one that. No idea how that would play out in rl.

Also this guidance clearly conflicts with anti-stalking and anti-harassment legislation. As an adult, i would hope that the law would take action against a male following me around, trying to get into my friendship group, insisting that i 'include him' when i don't want to. Surely being at school doesn't erase girls' protection from those legislations?

Also doesnt define the terms . What does reject mean? Can a girl say no to a transgirl when shes a lesbian ?

Page 25 doesn’t distinguish between crimes and things that are not criminal offences - presumably to make people think they all are.

I notice wearing a ‘woman: adult human female’ T-shirt, or ‘Same sex attracted’ one is included as would be fpfw or transgender trend leaflets or even talking about women’s rights.

Bingo ruffle

Now bear in mind that incidents can be reported by someone outside the situation so if they hear half a conversation or just hear someone being told to go away then if they think its related to sexual orientation or identity theh thats enough.

How is someone meant to prove that they told them to go away cos they were being an arsehole

The right to say no and have autonomy over their own bodies being eroded by government funded charities

Awful awful awful

Spiro - will the press directly point the finger at Stonewall et al? They need to be held accountable for this bullshit