School policies that encourage girls to take responsibility for male behaviour

The comment about male teachers was silly, but there is a trend for girls (generally from years 9-11) to dress in a sexualised manner. Short, tight skirts are more of a problem than short skirts themselves - some are so short you can see their underwear when they are walking up stairs. Rather than state a specific length that would need to be measured, it’s easier to choose knee length!

There is certainly some truth in this though - it's very uncomfortable for some male teachers when dealing with girls who are wearing revealing clothes. Not because of the risk of doing something inappropriate, but because accusations can happen so easily, and even accusations of looking at a girl wrong can be taken very seriously, when there is nothing in it.

my female colleagues would be sent home from work

woah, what the fuck?

are your female colleagues actually children?

The fact that it's a teacher who the child is being told she has to manage the reactions of makes it even worse. He is an adult, he's responsible for managing his own behavior, and if he can't do so then maybe he needs to find a different job.

There's a pragmatic balance to be found between idealism and realism here.

In an ideal world I would tell my daughter's that they could wear whatever they wanted and they'd have nothing to fear from anybody.

In the real world wearing revealing clothes makes girls/women more attractive to paedophiles/men respectively.

Pragmatically I tell my daughter's to dress sensibly for whatever occasion they are attending, and if they go out on the town to be aware of whatever type of attention it might bring.

Incidentally I wouldn't let my daughter's go to school with skirts above the knee as it just looks unprofessional, my female colleagues would be sent home from work, I'd expect my daughter's to be sent home from school.

And yes, mentioning the male teachers does seem inappropriate. Either those teachers are trusted, or they should be referred to the local safeguarding process for investigation.

Honestly, I would think she had a particular "concerning" teacher in mind that she was warning your friend's DD about.

The examples you give really piss me off.

Girls regulated on what they wear. Boys can wear shorts way above the knee - no one bats an eye.

A girl’s knee is not indecent - but with the threat to same sex spaces plus gender neutral toilets they’ll be expected to put up with adult male penises in toilets / communal changing rooms.

Talk about mixed messages to girls.

If I was the parent of the 13yr old girl told not to wear a skirt because of male teachers - I would make a complaint to the school.

If the male teachers can’t cope with a 13 yr old girl in shorts the they are in the wrong profession. Brother in law is a secondary school teacher - he would be aghast at this notion.

Everyone inc boys and men are responsible for their own behaviour.

I hate this stupid policing of clothes, and i also can't believe ANYONE would be stupid enough to actually say this outloud or commit it to paper instead of coming uo eith an actual proper reason.

Thats grim.
I thought this would be about sitting disruptive pupils next to quiet ones.