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@JustineMumsnet please consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension. It would help so many of us. Mumsnetters please sign!

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loveyouradvice · 23/01/2020 15:35

@JustineMumsnet

We the undersigned would like to ask you to consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension, as you have done with others.

Or perhaps, consider reinstating her for a three-month trial period and then reviewing.

We know you will have realised, from the two other LangCleg threads, how much her wisdom and constant voice in support of robust safeguarding is welcomed by so many on this board. It is truly a great loss to us, and to the depth of discussion about such important matters.

We hope Justine that you might do two things:

  • Review what actually happened with LangCleg and decide whether it really was so dire that she deserves permanent expulsion, or whether perhaps there was an element of misunderstanding on your moderators' part (which Michaeel's post indicates may have happened) and, that perhaps she was being held to an inappropriately high standard compared to others
  • Review the process, so that strong voices on here are able to continue to be heard for the benefit of all Mumsnet users

Or perhaps do neither of those things, and just reinstate her because you recognise how important your other Mumsnet users find her.... I guess the equivalent of a Royal Pardon,

Please hear our voice.

And everyone on here, please do sign if you want LangCleg back - just that, a signature with any discussion continuing on the LangCleg 2 thread. A signature to say you want her back and hope that @JustineMumsnet will consider this.

Thank you - both my fellow mums netters and Justine

OP posts:
Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 04:08

The only acceptable position for a parenting website to have is in favor of Safeguarding.

But you're trying to make the assertion that those who don't agree with you are opposed to safeguarding, which is a bit like how TRAs assert that a lesbian not wanting to sleep with a transwomen is transphobic.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 25/01/2020 03:57

The only acceptable position for a parenting website to have is in favor of Safeguarding.
They should neither respect, nor require posters to respect, the opinions of those who oppose Safeguarding.

DesireesChild · 25/01/2020 03:41

For the rest of us: it would be really, really useful to knowexactlywhatruleLang broke

Wasn't there an MNHQ post that she was so rude and aggressive towards staff that it came to a point that staff didn't want to deal with her?

I can't say that beyond the current kerfuffle where her name is on several threads that she made any impression on me.

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 03:19

I think the principle issue is how trans has become a trend, not the existence of trans individuals themselves. And sadly many teens are only more attracted to something if the older generation/parents rail against it.

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 03:16

I don't think you can insist that mumsnet take sides though tbh. Many women aren't GC, even if it seems logical than single sex provisions should be retained.

BettyFloop · 25/01/2020 03:11

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HeronLanyon · 25/01/2020 02:58

Signed

BettyFloop · 25/01/2020 02:51

tbw - I've known you for a long time and that just reminded me of how much I love you. Grin

Problem is that if the mods reinstate a banned member, where will it end? Too many posters seem to act territorially on FWR and the moderators have issued a reminder that they are the rule makers and nobody is 'above the rules'. If they back down then posters will just continue to flaunt the rules.

For the rest of us: it would be really, really useful to know exactly what rule Lang broke.

Lang was/is the most erudite poster talking and sharing expertise about the safeguarding of children from harm. Don't we all have a responsibility, a duty, to do that - safeguard children from harm? And it's bloody obvious that, by banning Lang, MN have created a suspicion about how seriously they take their responsibility in that regard. Yes - they make the rules....but "territory" here is the safety and well-being of children - minors; those who are deemed to have no agency in law because of their minor status.

So how safe do MN members feel now? Those abused as children, those who fear their children are vulnerable to abuse or actually being abused? I don't know. All I know is that Lang was a huge support, the voice of clarity and reason and an asset to this board.
Lang is sorely missed - and her loss is to the detriment of MN. People like Lang make this site.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 25/01/2020 02:14

I was not banned. I was asked to leave and I did. For a while.

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 01:59

I don't see it happening this time. I think it be like when they banned that other poster - Bewilderment or something.

NotTheLangCleg · 25/01/2020 01:55

Problem is that if the mods reinstate a banned member, where will it end?
They’ve done it plenty of times before. There’s even examples on the MN subreddit - some prominent posters who were banned were then emailed a few weeks later with offers to return.

RoxytheRexy · 25/01/2020 01:42

Signed x

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 01:40

Problem is that if the mods reinstate a banned member, where will it end? Too many posters seem to act territorially on FWR and the moderators have issued a reminder that they are the rule makers and nobody is 'above the rules'. If they back down then posters will just continue to flaunt the rules.

Isadora2007 · 25/01/2020 01:18

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