Douglas Murray on denunciations and Lawrence Fox

Bloody hell, just watched.
Cautionary tale for British Universities.
This Illicits some strong feelings in me. Good that these people will have this to forever remind them (and others) of their lunacy.

Now I don't want to disparage all those with an intersectional outlook, but I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy about it. There are those who seem to use it to better understand, reflect and analyse, those that use it for evil, and those that defer to it. I don't know enough about it. It has a very American/Canadian-ness about it that is hard to like, or relate to. It seems to be the backbone of the trans rights movement.

I wonder if students in Iran have arguments about whether their dining cards have been swiped when their oppressors turn up....

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Thanks for posting the Evergreen video, I had seen the earlier ones last year, they are simply shocking. The students are racist, anarchic, narcissistic twonks, who want to get people sacked. Hopefully plenty of people will see these videos and it will render the baying mob as unemployable.

Mao himself was from a well to do family. He had little time for peasants in his youth, only using them as pawns later on. The current campus situation in the US reminds me very much of the Cultural Revolution in China where intellectuals, professors and artists were publically humiliated by students. So far, they have not been sent to re-education camps, only banished from public view.

A bunch of rich kids abusing their families' power and putting them lower orders In their place

If you've not seen it you really must watch the infamous cafeteria scene at Evergreen College:

Out of control controlling narcissistic rage.

Or, managing carefully people who hold power over you and can have you sacked. Same old dynamic.
A bunch of rich kids abusing their families' power and putting them lower orders In their place, (under the guise of fighting for the oppressed) and enjoying it!

He seemed keen on that, though.

I watched the film about Evergreen last year and one of the things I wondered about was, what motivated that guy? Because he seemed to be enabling the whole thing quite deliberately.

Yes. Held by the short and curlies

Just look at the obsequious behaviour of the guy being held captive and escorted to the toilet. That tells you everything you want to know about how that works.

Wasn't that the university president?

Entitlement seeping from every pore. I would say kick the whole lot of them out of Uni, but as you can tell, daddy is paying a lot for them to play revolutionary silly beggars for a few years, so it wouldn't make much difference. Just look at the obsequious behaviour of the guy being held captive and escorted to the toilet. That tells you everything you want to know about how that works.

History is also replete with examples of students leading the charge for authoritarianism, fully convinced that they alone knew the proper way to think, act and speak. It's a lot easier to throw away concepts like freedom of speech if you're confident you won't be the ones impacted by it.

I recall our history teacher in a rubbish secondary school pointing out that many of the revolutionaries who shaped events and took charge were from the middle class rather than the working class. A good lesson to learn as a 14 year old living in a poor working class area.

It's often the case in these revolutionary movements where some people are speaking for all of the "oppressed" that the speakers are themselves highly privileged.

It's not about an intellectual space, says one student.
WTF?

Something very similar happened at Yale. There are a lots of clips online of the confrontations.

MsSafina I read about the Evergreen/Bret Weinstein case in Douglas Murray’s latest book and thought it sounded too OTT to be real. A quick google turned up that video. It is really scary.

Wow that video. This new project by Index of Censorship is sadly needed.
www.indexoncensorship.org/2019/12/free-speech-is-for-me-class-of-2020/

I would far rather have worked part-time but husband pushed me to take full time jobs though it was me that ended up doing most of the housework and child care. He worked very long hours, not coming home until 10 at night so I suppose he thought I should work long hours too

Yes, I know that some men demand that their partners work full time......even when they have children. I now see that even though I have, in certain ways, sacrificed total economic independence, I have been fortunate in that I have been able to pretty much do as I pleased. Stay home; work part time; work full time......as suited, and as was appropriate. I imagine a lot of younger men see things quite differently.....

@Justhadathought.
I would far rather have worked part-time but husband pushed me to take full time jobs though it was me that ended up doing most of the housework and child care. He worked very long hours, not coming home until 10 at night so I suppose he thought I should work long hours too.

Douglas Murray's latest article mentions Bret Weinstein and what happens when The Woke gain control of a campus.

And many women (as you presumably know) get left holding the baby, or don't have the wherewithal for "professional qualifications"

But we all have the right and the option of education until at least 16.....In order to get a professional qualification I had to re-sit my A-levels P/T over several years, then apply to university when my youngest started school; and then apply for teacher training my when my next two started school......

We're never all going to be equal...it has never happened in history and it is never going to happen.......The best we can aspire to is is equal opportunities and equal civil rights.....beyond that pretty much what we do will depend on our own initiative; our own luck; desire; determination and so on.

Obviously we all operate within a specific community, in a specific time in history, and we all come from different backgrounds......but there's not much that can be done about that save for acts of positive discrimination for those that are in the right place at the right time.

*Women are disproportionately poor and disproportionately put upon. That's not all choice, I just can't believe that8

Of course we al make choices within the contexts within which we live. But there's no reason, strictly speaking, that people cannot be even just a little bit 'socially mobile' should they set their intention to that.

My father was a bright grammar school boy from a working class background.....but he had to leave school at 14 to earn money to help feed his family. His ingenuity in engineering never made him wealthy, it made his company owners wealthy.........before they made hundreds of men redundant in the 1980's.......and my father had to take any job he could in order to keep a roof over our heads......

I understand what you are saying about women's traditional status and ensuing economic dependency - of course I do - but I'm not sure I'd ever call my father privileged - just because he is male, and white.