Douglas Murray on denunciations and Lawrence Fox

Amara123
How do you explain Chinese (or East Asian) privilege then? Because they do better than anyone in the nasty Wacist West. Why is starting out with relatively nothing and still doing well in life only a problem for certain ethnicities?
White privlege does not exist.

@BovaryX the same visceral contempt for Leave voters up North described as "gammon" which lost Labour the election.

"he (LF) is doing a gig in Bristol in February. Why is that? The most liberal city in the UK. For negative publicity.

He is seeking to be a poster boy for his own gain. That's all."

That really is clutching at straws to build a straw man!

LF is on a UK Tour: Manchester, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Bristol, London, Nottingham, Oxford, Brighton.

He is on tour because he has just released an Album

The contents show why he would be an obvious choice for Question Time as it would appear that they were looking for an anti-woke foil to identitarian orthodoxy.

I searched for "Laurence Fox UK Tour" and there were many results about the tour before I came to one that was about a specific venue: Oxford, due to his role in "Lewis".

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18147786.tvs-lewis-star-laurence-fox-returns-oxford-musician---taking-politically-correct-brigade/

"The album, called A Grief Observed, was written by Fox and contains lyrics and songs which reflect his personal experiences and thoughts over the past few years.

The album is a politically charged follow up to his previous album Holding Patterns.

One of the songs on the album, which goes by the name The Distance, was written as a form of backlash towards the rise of political correctness in the UK, and what Laurence perceives to be a decrease in freedom of expression.

Laurence says of the song: “This is about the desire to stifle expression. “To salute only the present orthodoxy; the dangers of throwing away old wisdoms in order not to offend the perpetually offended. It’s my attempt at an anthem in praise of free expression and how it takes people listening together to make a difference in life."

"The Distance" is a duet with Izo Fitzroy, who IMHO is much the better vocalist of the two!

They have put something in the water
They seek a cure for the conversation
They stole a march on your indecision

And the first to fall is laughter
Just to quell the unoffended
They seek to murder your opinion

And the light has been turned down on the age of reason
Replaced by blinding fires that burn wild across the region
For the wrong to rule
The good must just stand idly by

So I need you more than ever
Need your hands in this resistance
If we're going to go the distance
And if I ever doubt it
I think about my future
And if i want to live there

And the world outside is wondrous wide for a reason
If you can't decide, you must blow your own mind for that reason
For the wrong to rule
The good must just stand idly by
And that's no lie

It can be hard to know what feeling
What with all the lies that you're reading
If it's hard to say, you may mean it

Don't be lost thinking about tomorrow
When today is what you are living
Make today your new beginning

The light has been turned down on the age of reason
Replaced by blinding fires that burn wild across the region
For the wrong to rule
The good must just stand idly by

So I need you more than ever
Need your hands in this resistance
If we're going to go the distance
And if I ever doubt it
I think about my future
And if i want to live there

And the world outside is wondrous wide for a reason
If you can't decide, you must blow your own mind for that reason
For the wrong to rule
The good must just stand idly by
And that's no lie

So I need you more than ever
Need your hands in this resistance
If we're going to go the distance
And if I ever doubt it
I think about my future
And if i want to live there

Laurence Fox's Twitter feed is hilarious! @LozzaFox

He has been having a "spat" with the fictional Jarvis Dupont, who responded with this:

Jarvis Dupont: "All @LozzaFox has to do is crawl naked on his belly through a pile of horse shit while PoCs throw rocks at him as he screams: ‘I’M SORRY FOR WHAT I DID. PLEASE FORGIVE MY WRONG SPEAK. I AM A HORRIBLE PERSON.’ But he won't do it."

linking to this article:

"Laurence Fox made me go into hiding"
I called the FBI but so far they have not called me back

spectator.us/laurence-fox-made-hiding/

L Fox replied: "That’s FUCKING IT! The death threats I can take, but for @SpectatorUSA to give a platform to this deluded leftist horse snatch is TOO MUCH. I call on any and all advertisers of this once great magazine to withdraw their support immediately."

Pink News has joined in, suggesting that Fox was unaware that Jarvis DuPont is a parody account and reprinting some of the insults they were flinging at each other

"Laurence Fox – the white man who thinks racism is ‘boring’ – is now deliberately misgendering a fictional trans woman"
Archive version - so you do not have add to Penis News' viewer stats:
archive.ph/1jklk

I hope Fox's tweets are being archived in case he gets taken down - way funnier than Ricky Gervais. Unlike Gervais, it is obvious that he isn't doing this for comedy effect - he genuinely finds the wokerati belly-achingly amusing and does not give a flying f&ck what anyone thinks!

LF is also offering a prize for the best roast of his music

twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1219272135585280001

Laurence Fox - The Distance via @YouTube

ticketmaster.co.uk/laurence-fox-tickets/artist/1831834…

Hope to see you there. 2 free tickets to any venue for the person who comes up with the best roast of my music. 😘😘

freedom of speech applies to statements more controversial than Kittens are fluffy
Yep there's a well-known quote from a judgment (Handyside v UK) of the ECtHR: Freedom of expression...is applicable not only to 'information' or 'ideas' that are favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of indifference, but also to those that offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population

There was a SA SCA judgment last year on the regulation of hate speech in a 'vibrant democracy'. The judgment (unanimously finding that legislative provisions purporting to regulate such speech were unconstituitional) contains this quote: 'Some of us remember all too well how the apartheid government tried to censor our thoughts and our speech. Do we really want to go back to a situation where we are so scared to express our deeply and sincerely held and honest opinions that we shut up because we fear we might be found guilty of hate speech?’
I think a lot of what LF said was crass and dickish. If freedom of expression means anything it's that he has the right to say it and I have the right to find it crass and dickish.

Finally an intelligent discussion about Laurence Fox's views. On the thread I started, I was subjected to abuse for suggesting he might have a point.

One poster said that even on a council estate, the unemployed white males have privilege. There was also a horrific post comparing a white Jewish person who is homeless and suffering from cancer with a BAME person in the same situation. The white Jewish person has "privilege", apparently. You can easily see how we've ended up with anti-Semitism if the far left's ideology is this stupid.

Auditing people for "privilege" is A Level Sociology homework. It's no way to run a society.

To speak out in current times, where abuse is almost inevitable, seems to require someone to be opinionated, pig-headed and stubborn.

This observation comes up again and again in threads. Very often the people who speak up about problems like this have significant dickish qualities. Not just about racism or women's issues, either, I've seen it many times over the years around different questions, some quite specific to the time and place. It's someone who is opinionated, is willing to be disliked and maybe even revels in it a little, someone who is willing to be a little not nice and expects people to be adults about it and doesn't care if they don't.

And like some have said, often isn't in a position to greatly lose because of it.

The Rotherham situation happened elsewhere. A victim who i think was from Oxford was tried for racial hate crime against her abuser. He was Turkish. The serious case review said police obsession with supposed hate crime blinded them to the real serious crime happening to the teenage girl.

LF is an overpriviliged dick, but some of us will defend to the death his right to dick off in accordance with his Barmy Brussels Yooooman Rights.

LF is only relevant in that he was an individual in the public eye who dared to go off script a give an opinion (a pretty mild one), contrary to woke acceptable. LF is obviously enjoying the limelight and seems a bit of a dick, but that's not important either, only the backlash and tactics of the woke really matter here.
The woke will not tolerate deviation and the pushback is immediate and hard with a direct threat to LFs livelihood. Ironically it is because he obviously is privileged that this threat will not mean much to him. Like JK Rowling, he will not struggle to pay bills or buy food because of it.
I have never really been one to get worked up about freedom of speech before now, but then to me it has never felt under such threat as it does now, or have such frightening implications for us ordinary folk.
Well done LF, even if you are a bit of a dick, and I don't fully agree with everything you said.

I haven't been following closely but just to say I stand with team justcly, if she has one. If she doesn't, even more so. LF is a twat. Racism everywhere is a reality, and he really isn't in the best position to judge.
And, needmoresleep, since when were you the judge of who wins MN today? Can we all apply for a stint in the job?

Manichean

Gosh. Learned a new word.

That just about sums it up LuisaRey. Important to not let them get away with it unchallenged.

He's forty one. Is that 'stale' (elderly) now?

Iain Duncan-Smith is one-eighth Japanese. Does he get a free pass?

Why exactly is that ok?

It isn't but as another poster put it

the tendency on the left to demonize anyone who disagrees with them, this conviction of their moral superiority. This Manichean certainty they are right and their desire to silence dissent and debate. It is totalitarian

explains it.

stale pale Male

Revolting choice of words based on his sex and skin colour. Why exactly is that ok?

LF is just a publicity hungry well connected stale pale Male

The expression "stale, pale male" is nasty, bigoted and prejudiced.