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Trans women in womens toilet

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BeCoolYolanda · 19/01/2020 01:56

I was out with friends tonight for a friends birthday. While in the queue for the toilet in the womens bathroom a transwomen came in. She was chatting to people in the queue and the lady in front of me asked if she were a man or a woman as she wasnt comfortable with a male being in the female toilets.

With that all hell all hell broke loose, the transwomen became very aggressive shouting and pointing in the womens face. A lot of women in the queue also turned on the woman, saying how dare she ask that etc. The woman ended up locking herself in the toilet as she felt intimidated.

Eventually the bouncers were called and they came in to the toilet and dragged the woman who asked the question out forcefully by the arm. Should this be happening? All a women did was question if it was a male or female that was using a female space, maybe she could have worded it less bluntly but surely the sentiment is still the same.

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MissingMySleep · 19/01/2020 09:54

How terrifying

Chocolatemice · 19/01/2020 09:34

Bloody hell. That is terrifying. People think my fear of sharing toilets is a bit full on. This is why it matters. We had separate toilets for a reason.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 19/01/2020 09:27

I should add - this is a perfect example of the erasure of woman’s right to free speech and safe space in action - divide and rule within women clearly an effective policy.

Woman removed from woman space due to inclusion of man in woman’s space.

I would complain to the venue, your MP and mention it to the press.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 19/01/2020 09:10

Whilst I never would have been aggressive, I think a number of years ago my reaction may have been similar to the women in the queue who rounded on the questioner.

I think much of society think the issue - if they know about it at all - think it is about politeness and being progressive, when it is not.

Many have not yet considered / imagined the full ramifications to the erasure of women’s rights, ability to speak, sport, spaces, ability to believe and discuss science, safeguarding and the corruption of statistics to understand the structure of society and guide resources.

Self ID

  • girls legally forced to share toilet provision with grown men
  • girls legally forced to undress in front of grown men in communal changing rooms
  • Female prisoners forced to share cells/ showers with rapists.
  • Statistics that now show women can rape - when only men can rape - needs a penis

I can’t imagine the women in the queue would actually agree with the above if they were aware. If they do - that would be awful.

We need to use every opportunity to educate and inform women and men.

Bouncers - no excuse

BeCoolYolanda · 19/01/2020 03:10

No I havent because this happened tonight, I have read a lot about it but its the first time I have seen something like this first hand. Its opened my eyes and I will contact the venue tomorrow. To be honest I felt imitidated myself, the woman who asked the question was very much 'in the wrong' according to most people there.

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AutumnRose1 · 19/01/2020 03:04

OP have you written to your local MP about this issue generally?

BeCoolYolanda · 19/01/2020 03:02

Exactly. I feel like some people are that frightened of seeming homophobic or transphobic that they are allowing, even welcoming this. Its scary.

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AutumnRose1 · 19/01/2020 02:57

No it shouldn’t be happening

Complain to the venue.

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