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Trans women in womens toilet

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BeCoolYolanda · 19/01/2020 01:56

I was out with friends tonight for a friends birthday. While in the queue for the toilet in the womens bathroom a transwomen came in. She was chatting to people in the queue and the lady in front of me asked if she were a man or a woman as she wasnt comfortable with a male being in the female toilets.

With that all hell all hell broke loose, the transwomen became very aggressive shouting and pointing in the womens face. A lot of women in the queue also turned on the woman, saying how dare she ask that etc. The woman ended up locking herself in the toilet as she felt intimidated.

Eventually the bouncers were called and they came in to the toilet and dragged the woman who asked the question out forcefully by the arm. Should this be happening? All a women did was question if it was a male or female that was using a female space, maybe she could have worded it less bluntly but surely the sentiment is still the same.

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YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 22/07/2022 14:28

We're going to close this thread now as it's over two years old.

MrsWooster · 22/07/2022 14:24

LadyOfTheSith · 22/07/2022 14:11

The point is that Women's Health that is women magazine consider transgender women as women not as a men/male

Assuming you’re saying ‘a women’s magazine considers twaw so it must be true..’ then no; male and female is a scientific fact.
The tabloids and Heat magazine if that even still exists consider that the royal family is important and fascinating. I don’t agree with them either.

Redburnett · 22/07/2022 14:22

I am glad that some brave women have the confidence to challenge transwomen in such situations. The challenger was absolutely within her rights to do so.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/07/2022 14:21

Oh well if womens Health say it it must be true 🙄🙄

the queen, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the prime minister could all think men are women but it still wouldn’t make them right

changing sex is impossible. All that anyone can do is present as a facsimile of the opposite sex

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 22/07/2022 14:19

The point is that Women's Health that is women magazine consider transgender women as women not as a men/male

come on, this has to be a joke.

LadyOfTheSith · 22/07/2022 14:11

Norma27 · 22/07/2022 11:46

@LadyOfTheSith if any of them are in danger in the male toilets where they belong, that is because of male violence.
Women are not shields to protect men from other men. Should we also invite elderly men, gay men, weak men into our safe spaces? NO. All those born male do not belong in female spaces.
Teach men to treat all other males with respect.

The point is that Women's Health that is women magazine consider transgender women as women not as a men/male

LadyOfTheSith · 22/07/2022 14:09

Norma27 · 22/07/2022 11:46

@LadyOfTheSith if any of them are in danger in the male toilets where they belong, that is because of male violence.
Women are not shields to protect men from other men. Should we also invite elderly men, gay men, weak men into our safe spaces? NO. All those born male do not belong in female spaces.
Teach men to treat all other males with respect.

The point is that Women's Health that is women magazine consider transgender women as women not as a men/male

SeaShellT · 22/07/2022 13:00

Agree, we need uni sex toilets, separate toilets for people with penises and separate toilets for people with vaginas as well as disabled toilets. Toilets have fuck all to do with gender Hmm and ONLY with sex.

SeaShellT · 22/07/2022 12:57

This did not happen.

AgathaAllAlong · 22/07/2022 12:55

Definitely provisions like gender neutral toilets are needed. What would have happened if the Transwoman had said "Im a woman" instead of shouting abuse? Perhaps a pantomime of "oh no you're not", "oh yes I am!"

stealtheatingtunnocks · 22/07/2022 12:52

So, what DO I say to a TW in my toilet if I want to enjoy my EA 2010 exemptions to a single sex space where I can remove my clothing and attend to my bodily needs without any male people in ear shot?

am I transphobic because I feel uncomfortable with males near me when I am in a state of undress, and my knickers round my ankles so I can’t run, and dealing with a number of female functions which I do not wish to perform with a male audience?

Seriously? My desire for privacy makes me hateful?

Why?

Artichokeleaves · 22/07/2022 12:25

One wonders who is going to stand on the door of every female facility and make the value judgement of which male person is sufficiently beautiful to have won access?

Because the reality is if the very beautiful male people are permitted, and the very very feminine male people are permitted, then so are any other male people at all who state that they wish to, including those with beards and swords and ill intent.

And what does the poster intend to do with all the (probably equally beautiful and lovely) female people now with no facility at all so that beautiful male people, non beautiful male people and in fact all male people can take their preferred choice of all the facilities all of the time? And how do they justify this male supremacism?

knittingaddict · 22/07/2022 12:18

I know this is a zombie thread, but I can't resist.

Can I get this straight LadyOfTheSith, if a transgender woman is attractive then it's ok to have them in a female space? That's what you are saying? It's their "attractiveness" that makes it ok? Good looks give you entitlement? Weird take.

This is a dump and run post isn't it, so don't suppose you will be back to debate.

Faffertea · 22/07/2022 12:16

Oh for an edit button!! I don’t know what necromancies is. Should have been necromancer.
Was trying to be clever with the zombie thing.
Will not attempt again.

Faffertea · 22/07/2022 12:15

I know zombie thread etc but in response to the necromancies who raised it from the dead. Would I do the things you asked? Yes. I would.
Not because I hate transwomen or the individual in the article (I didn’t even open it) but because they are male and therefore do not belong in female same sex spaces.
m all be whatever you like I really don’t care anymore.
Feminism is for females.

DomesticatedZombie · 22/07/2022 11:56

zombie by name, zombie by thread.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/07/2022 11:56

Ah the wonders of photoshop are indeed many plus this is a great opportunity to explain for the zillionth time that a 1 dimensional photoshopped photo will not show many of the differences that are obvious the moment the vast vast majority of TW walk & talk

plus is it not deeply transphobic to say TW must present as feminine?

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Norma27 · 22/07/2022 11:46

@LadyOfTheSith if any of them are in danger in the male toilets where they belong, that is because of male violence.
Women are not shields to protect men from other men. Should we also invite elderly men, gay men, weak men into our safe spaces? NO. All those born male do not belong in female spaces.
Teach men to treat all other males with respect.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 22/07/2022 11:39

LOL I wonder how our visitor found this thread, it’s not even the first time it’s been zombied!

Amusingly most of the males in that article are HUGE. I’m sure 6’5 Nikki wossname would be quaking for their life in the men’s toilets.

Cognacsoft · 22/07/2022 11:29

LadyOfTheSith · 22/07/2022 11:08

here is the article from Women's Health magazine showing photos of ACTUAL TRANSGENDER WOMEN. They are even celebrities who inspire other women. Would you send this beautiful women in males toilets where their lifes will be in danger. would you say they are males or real women for those who say women can always tell the difference.WOMEN'S HEALTH

Well Elliot Page is a trans man and imo still looks like a woman.
Which toilet will he use?

Artichokeleaves · 22/07/2022 11:22

Dead thread walking.....

LadyOfTheSith · 22/07/2022 11:08

here is the article from Women's Health magazine showing photos of ACTUAL TRANSGENDER WOMEN. They are even celebrities who inspire other women. Would you send this beautiful women in males toilets where their lifes will be in danger. would you say they are males or real women for those who say women can always tell the difference.WOMEN'S HEALTH

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 15/09/2020 13:45

Does it matter that it’s an old thread, from January? I was anxious to find out if any action was taken against the venue or the thugs who dragged a woman out. I know it’s more like that the innocent woman was cautioned by police ...

ErrolTheDragon · 14/09/2020 23:30

Urgh, I didn't notice this was the reanimated corpse of a thread when I replied. Blush

gamerchick · 14/09/2020 21:25

How far did you have to dig to find this massively old thread? Hmm

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