So, serious question. Are any of the Labour leadership candidates GC?

Nope. And the same goes for all the leaders of the other main political parties. We have no one to speak for us.

NC for this for obvious reasons.
Labour is rotten at every level imo. In the local party there's an elected officer referring to my posts on here and demanding to know who I am, presumably so he can get me sacked or bullied.
Being in my right mind I obviously would never be so self-destructive as to go near Labour locally.
How do they think they can persuade me and others like me to vote for them, whoever the leader is, until this stuff is taken seriously?

Keir Starmer (according to P*k News) was the first candidate to come out for trans rights, making it clear he'd push for GRA. Perversely, given her faith, RLB is probably the most likely to really believe that transwomen are definitely male. Perversely, because she is in every other way pretty awful.

Yep deathbypuppy
I was never going to vote for her anyway - I don't believe Labour should have a female leader just for the sake of it (although some of them would categorise males in that camp anyway so not quite sure what the hoo ha is).
Starmer was always going to have my vote.
But still, galling to see a biological woman throw 51% of the population to the kerbside when it actually seems to not matter to her if one of her opponents was a biological male claiming to be a woman.
ffs - I'm so over this shit.

None will admit to it.

I think there must be a distinction between the candidates who are saying this stuff because they actually believe it and those who don't believe it but fear the backlash if they don't pretend to. I don't know which is worse, really.

Keir Starmer is an intelligent man and I don't think for one moment that he actually believes trans women are women. And even if he will pretend he does for the sake of expediency, he is also a lawyer so can easily see the terrible consequences of enshrining self-ID in law. So sadly, from a feminist point of view, I think he is probably our best hope.

Fucksake, just read the webchat, and came over here to see if there was a specific thread about it.

I think Jess nailed her colours to the mast there didn't she? And the free speech/inciting hatred veiled reference. Honestly, bloody hell.

Following JPs web chat today, I think we can safely say that JP is in the twaw camp.

I saw a recent online interview with Jess P in the Pink News where she was basically tying herself in knots grovelling to the TW journo.

Thread about that interview.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3797841-Jess-Phillips-throws-GC-women-under-the-bus

I think the Labour Party has been so thoroughly captured that, even if any of the candidates are secretly GC, I cannot imagine them putting their head over the parapet, or even having the nerve to whisper their concerns to James Kirkup. Nor do I have any reason to believe they would suddenly find their courage once they're in charge - they would then be beholden to the people who put them there.

No idea about Long Bailey but her CLP passed an extreme TWAW motion by a staggering majority (35:5)

Are there even any backbench MPs who are? Liz Kendall always struck me as quite sensible, shame she's not running.

Is that naive?

Very

I think most of them have been purged in the past two years. Any who are left are keeping it to themselves.

There have been two interviews with Jess Phillips in which she expresses regret for retweeting WPUK as she didn't know it was a "hate group"! (Not sure if she used those words but the woke interviewers might have added this handy description so that readers will know just how badly she failed to follow the party line.

Well we’ve had enough demonstrations of how power can be taken by stealth from transactivists. I suspect the most likely way a reality understander might make it to the top of the Labour Party right now is by pretending to be a woke believer.

A truly outstanding person might raise sufficient passion in non-believers to overthrow the gods of wokeism, but I don’t see anyone of that calibre on the horizon at present.

I live in hope (with frequent bouts of eye rolling).

I'm hoping AnyOldPrion is right. If any of them say anything openly GC now, they'll likely have to deal with a JK Rowling style backlash and risk losing the election. Especially since there are still a lot of people who read the headlines and dont know the full story.
I think it's worth listening carefully to their phrasing around the issue.
I've joined up to vote but haven't decided on who yet. I think there are a lot of women who've also done so.

If any of them are, they’ll do well to keep their mouths shut about it until after the polling. Otherwise the anti-women brigade will have them kicked out before you can say Jill Robinson.

Silly, that would require one of them to be in favour of the rights of women, even when it upset men! Of course not!