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Into The Heart of Terfiness

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SunsetBeetch · 17/01/2020 11:15

Thanks to Fred Sargeant on twitter for bringing my attention to this amazing piece of writing. Enjoy!

"Transplainer on lesbians, why they're all suffering from unresolved internalized gender dysphoria and why they need to shut up from a trans extremist who calls himself a "top writer on feminism.

Into the Heart of TERFness by @wyatt_gates t.co/vcJ2QZRo6z "

twitter.com/FredSargeant/status/1217919176045625345?s=19

[[https://medium.com/@wyattegates/into-
the-heart-of-terfness-f4517fc41707]]

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Michelleoftheresistance · 20/01/2020 12:36

If there's any joy in it, you're clearly getting it wrong.

Quite. Just how did you, as a lesbian, miss the memo about there being high social value on you as a female trying hard enough to learn to cope with penis in your sex life so you may provide sex to biological males?

Because there is much less (in fact almost no) social value on you as a female expecting sex to be about your own sexual pleasure, feeling entitled to make choices about your body that hasn't first been checked with males for approval, or being entitled to freedom from homophobia and conversion therapy as other groups in society are.

Lie back and think of Social Justice for pete's sake.

Ereshkigal · 20/01/2020 08:29

Also, if he thinks lesbians are dealing with unresolved gender dysphoria, he couldn't call them "cis," could he?

Quite. Tut tut for misgendering.

Ereshkigal · 20/01/2020 08:27

But to me, the most damning evidence of all is the way that TERFs just cannot shut up.

Yes women, males want you to be quiet. How "damning" for us that we aren't.

NearlyGranny · 20/01/2020 07:54

justcly, just do it properly! If there's any joy in it, you're clearly getting it wrong. 🙄

justcly · 19/01/2020 05:57

I'm kind of grateful to Wyatt, because I hadn't realised until now that I wasn't lesbianing correctly.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 18/01/2020 17:16

I was told it was interesting that I have chosen a man's name.....

but it's not about sexist stereotypes I tell you!

Michelleoftheresistance · 18/01/2020 16:58

I'm sure we've had TRAs come on FWR before now - a year or so back? And argue that we were all TM in denial because of not conforming to the feminine stereotypes of being nice/passive/interested only in scones and babies instead of talking politics.

Jux · 18/01/2020 16:55

Man tells women to shut up. There Wyatt, that's ll you needed to say.

StrangeLookingParasite · 18/01/2020 16:38

Pretty much everyone is trans under the Stonewall definition.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 18/01/2020 16:36

I am forced to conclude that a large number of TERFs are themselves experiencing gender dysphoria'.

Does that mean we’re all trans, then? Oh goody, maybe they won’t be so keen to push their way into female spaces, if so many females are trans, as we can no longer give them validation.

Freespeecher · 18/01/2020 16:32

'After having subjected myself to an unreal amount of TERF posts courtesy of Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter, I am forced to conclude that a large number of TERFs are themselves experiencing gender dysphoria'.

Man oh man! How did they manage to type that with a straight face?

HorseWithNoTimeForThis · 18/01/2020 16:31

Just googled 'spooge'...

Very apt.

NotAtMyAge · 18/01/2020 16:21

A good proportion of very solid rebuttals in the comments, I'm glad to say.

allmywhat · 18/01/2020 12:53

Is the writer a woman? I've no idea.

I'm 100% certain they are male but have no idea how they identify, thought I'd better err on the side of genderfluidity after calling their article a spooge puddle.

StrangeLookingParasite · 17/01/2020 21:01

Dude is weird, looking at his other pieces on Medium. Inconsistent.

Ereshkigal · 17/01/2020 19:47

Based on that article identifying as a woman seems to mean feeling a simmering resentment towards women that can barely be held in check.

Surely not? Say it ain't so!

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 17/01/2020 19:40

wyatt knows ALL THE THINGS doesn't he?

wise Wyatt. Thank heavens he's here to put us right

RedToothBrush · 17/01/2020 19:20

I;ll save everyone some time with a simple summary

Lesbians are sinister for saying no. I don't like being told no. What I say and think is more important than anyone else.

The end.

Thats a few minutes of your life you can now spend doing something more useful, productive, intellectually stimulating and pleasurable. Like cleaning the toilet.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/01/2020 19:04

Based on that article identifying as a woman seems to mean feeling a simmering resentment towards women that can barely be held in check. In rather the same way many teenagers resent their parents, but without the almost guaranteed to grow out of it element.

FemaleAndLearning · 17/01/2020 18:23

Thanks for the non medium link All.

I've not really heard about women calling transmen gender traitors before. I guess that means it's made up!

I don't identify as a TERF so it's hard to read it with any seriousness 'just saying'.

PJsatMidday · 17/01/2020 17:39

RuffleCrow Grin

StrangeLookingParasite · 17/01/2020 17:27

Look at all the straw men. So many.

nauticant · 17/01/2020 17:03

My verdict: The author is someone who should be kept away from women.

RuffleCrow · 17/01/2020 17:01

"Neil, Neil, Orange Peel...."

"Oh Cliff, sometimes it feels as though you really were a Cliff. When people keep trying to push you over it..."

Grin
nauticant · 17/01/2020 16:58

Thanks allmywhat, I didn't want to give a click to such a peculiar article.

However, I might withdraw my thanks once I've looked at the archived article.