Jess Phillips throws GC women under the bus

Right. I have re-asked my question. Let’s see if it is deleted again. This time I asked it thus:

What is your opinion of extrajudicial punishment/policing? Do you agree with police effectively criminalising people without evidence or due process when those people have not broken any law (For example through the use of C5 notices regarding sexual behaviour, or recording of hate incidents)?

it’s grimly hilarious how you are getting all hyped about boycotting the webchat. what will happen if you don’t engage? well, nothing. MN won’t have to close down under a thundercloud of embarrassment because you’re not allowed to dominate a conversation with your own endless repetitive echo chamber.

if you can’t play nice, you can’t play. it’s not difficult to understand. and if you decide you don’t want to play, and start a Secret Special Clever Thread on the side well, that’s fine. it won’t be some gigantic victory for feminism. it’ll just be the same old shit on a separate thread, which will be subject to the same moderation policy as all the other threads on this subject.

Anything that gets the good old Barbara Streisand effect in full motion...

Yes, absolutely

Bugger. Well she's lost my vote

Anything that gets the good old Barbara Streisand effect in full motion...

questions are fine, concerns are prejudiced

This makes me so angry. It's basically "believe what we tell you - if you're not sure what to believe, ask and we'll tell you what to think, but don't you dare introduce any of your own thinking".

That's right people. You heard it.

Maybe people should ask her directly on twitter if she asked for the webchat to be censored and @ copy in a few journalists too.

Just to make sure people are paying attention.

Maybe a side step approach, with questions. Eg:

"How do you ensure that scandals like the child abuse scandal in Manchester are not able to happen again?"

"Questions are fine"

So, MN are deleting the questions Jess doesn't want to answer. How fucking ridiculous is that woman. She should be ashamed of herself.

I’m in as well Barracker . I would have asked about lobby group influence/pressure on schools to positively affirm children despite that being against the Tavi’s recommendations. This directly impacts my family but there’s no point in my asking as I have done so before in other web chats- just deleted with a slap on the wrist for me by email. It’s not worth the upset it causes me (the slap on the wrist) so I don’t bother with the webchats now.

I'm very disappointed my question about the Spousal Exit Clause ("veto") was deleted.

I never thought Mumsnet would silence trans widows.

Great idea, Barracker. Count me in!

It's typical of youse lot to keep asking the question just because nobody can come up with a comprehensible answer to it.

That's a good idea, Barracker. I quite like the thought of doing that for various people, with quotes all referenced.

Is someone afraid of being 'Jo Swinsoned'?

If you can't hack the difficult questions on a MN webchat, what do you think will happen if Jess becomes leader come the next election?

This issue isn't going away.

This issue has dominated previous webchats, which we don’t think is fair to our guests nor to the entire Mumsnet user community, some of whom have said they felt put off joining in - not something any MN user has said to us about multiple questions on other topics.

Perhaps the reasons its dominated previous chats and continues to dominate concerns is because politicians keep failing to listen and represent the interests of women and children on this issue and this is a major oversight because of the implications of this???

Can you imagine if we had been told that we can't talk about housing or austerity or something else because it'd be talked about a lot before?

Errrrrrr.... no.

Its being raised time and again FOR A REASON.

Ponder on that.

I propose we start the Alternative webchat thread.
One for all the forbidden questions.
Jess Phillips won't be on it, of course, but resourceful mumsnetters will be able to source and provide any prior quotes, verbatim of course, from her to give a flavour of her position.

We can run it in FWR at the same time as the stage managed webchat.

Should any savvy journo be curious about the banned questions, or what the women of Mumsnet are really interested in asking Jess, they could wander over for a compare and contrast.

Just an idea.

Let me guess, the webchat was agreed to on the condition that certain safeguarding issues could not be discussed?

I'd like a straight answer on whether this is the case from MNHQ.

Honestly, a politician should face ALL questions, ESPECIALLY ones about safeguarding in the light of trying to work out why safeguarding scandals like the Manchester Child Abuse scandal happened. NOTHING should be off limits. Certainly not in the name of being politically correct. A politician should be able to address 'politically incorrect questions' and answer they appropriately. If they can't they shouldn't be representing the members of a local dogwalking club, never mind leading the country in parliament.

If there is ONE trans question to ask Jess Phillips it needs to be something to do with TransWidows or kids of trans people and how they are forced to comply.

Tilda I suspect that is what MNHQ are hoping for: the posters will ask Jess what her favourite biscuit is how the Labour Party will support breastfeeding by men

I didn't see your thread, Stealth - just posted on there now.

Oh dear veering into women's right again

Why don't we, en masse, just not bother with the webchat at all, if we are not allowed to ask what we need answering in order for us to decide on our vote? Seems like a waste of everyone's time.

I started a thread to get a general sense of the levels if concern... Tumbleweed