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Parents rejecting gender neutral (unisex) toilets

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NotTerfNorCis · 14/01/2020 18:15

Here's a ray of light. This is what most people really think.

Hundreds of people have signed a petition against gender-neutral toilets at a school in Leicester.

The toilets were introduced at New College in New Parks, Leicester after the school's Christmas holidays.

Around 500 people have signed the petition, which is against the introduction of the toilets.

www.itv.com/news/central/2020-01-13/hundreds-sign-petition-against-gender-neutral-toilets-in-leicester-school/

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ScapaFlo · 14/01/2020 23:26

Schools should have a couple of mixed sex toilets

Yes, one for the (non binary) boys and one for the the (non binary) girls. So everyone.

Datun · 14/01/2020 23:16

Dd's school; have now locked all the usual toilets and the only ones open are gender neutral.

Sorry Troels, are you saying they are deliberately restricting the facilities to force compliance? How does that work? Why aren't all the loos mixed sex in that case?

Thelnebriati · 14/01/2020 23:07

Children over the age of 8 have the right to single sex toilets.

''Unisex toilet plan ditched at London school''
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36537193/unisex-toilet-plan-ditched-at-london-school-because-of-gap-at-bottom-of-doors

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 14/01/2020 23:05

Locking some toilets to force pupils to use others is surely something the local council could look into? It comes across as punitive.

NotTerfNorCis · 14/01/2020 23:04

Troels could you make a written complaint to the school?

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/01/2020 22:36

I've been encouraging her to get her friends toogether and protest this.

I think I'd be complaining about this myself. Is there a reason why you're not getting involved?

Troels · 14/01/2020 22:30

Dd's school; have now locked all the usual toilets and the only ones open are gender neutral. She and her friends refuse to go all day now. She's using a night time pad for her period so she doesn't have to go. Luckily she has light periods.
I've been encouraging her to get her friends toogether and protest this. I'm pretty sure the boys don't like it either, she says.
Bloody rediculous.

Uncompromisingwoman · 14/01/2020 22:02

xxyzz As schools are evidently only listening to Stonewall etc and not children (whatever happened to "pupil voice"?) it's now up to parents to protect their children. Who'd have thought we would end up here.

Schools should have a couple of mixed sex toilets. It takes the pressure off a school if any bullying activist groups get involved as there are already 'gender neutral' facilities for use by gender non conforming children. It also allows schools to ensure that other children are not coerced into sharing toilets with the opposite sex.

xxyzz · 14/01/2020 21:46

They tried to do this at my ds's school.

They started by converting one set of toilets to gender neutral, suggestions it would be rolled out across the school. No discussion with kids or parents beforehand. But after the school had become Stonewall awarded or whatever the term is.

Cue lots of upset kids refusing to use these loos (including my ds), lots of very vocally unhappy parents making their feelings clear to the lovely but slightly woke Head.

Surprise surprise, no more gender neutral loos introduced!

NotTerfNorCis · 14/01/2020 21:00

As an adult I find unisex loos (with rows of cubicles) uncomfortable. I can only imagine how hellish that would have been at secondary school.

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EverardDigby · 14/01/2020 20:11

Interesting, New Parks is one of Leicester's most deprived wards, and the outer estates and the west of the city, where this school is, tend to be less ethnically mixed than inner city and east Leicester. I don't know anything about the profile of this school, but it's probably not a middle class protest and less likely to be driven by religion than in other areas, if it's just locals signing the petition.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/01/2020 19:58

It depends on what exactly they've done, but 'redesignating' some of them nearly always means removing girls loos and leaving boys ones alone if they have urinals. (I don't know if they're the norm in school toilets nowadays)

Uncompromisingwoman · 14/01/2020 18:40

Children aren't asking for mixed sex toilets. Women (and most men) don't want mixed sex toilets. Yet they are being imposed on all of us. Why?

Transgender Trend have a recent blog about this:

www.transgendertrend.com/gender-neutral-toilets-schools/

Lordfrontpaw · 14/01/2020 18:32

Good. Hate them.

NotTerfNorCis · 14/01/2020 18:32

They're saying it was because of an influx of new pupils. But it shows what resistance we can expect when unisex toilets become widespread.

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Lordfrontpaw · 14/01/2020 18:17

Will it make any difference though?