Nikkietutorials comes out as trans

I think this will just heap more confusion onto young children and it helps no one. It is not possible to be born in the wrong body & we need to be honest with kids, it’s not possible to change sex.

I haven't seen anyone suggesting Nikkie is 'dangerous or threatening' on this thread, Robin, can you quote? People have expressed a great deal of sympathy, in fact. However, no matter how TRAs try to coerce us, sympathy doesn't mean abandoning feminist protection of women's rights, and the rights of women to define ourselves, or accepting that anyone who likes Barbie and makeup is really a woman.

Loved Nikki on Glow Up however I'm very much in the no shit Sherlock camp too! Awful to be blackmailed but also awful not to disclose it to your partner.

I recall the lovely Glow Up winner Ellis speaking out ages ago about how he had at first felt pressure to become 'trans' but then he realised he wasn't, he was just a guy who was into cosmetics, liked wearing make up and wanted to become a fab MUA.

Not so sure about his more recent ish twitter posts where he possibly used clumsy wording when he said something about 'being a woman' because of his made up look so perhaps his position has changed?!

You may want to reconsider how effectively you're doing that then Robin because implying that one group is responsible for harm happening to another group is not thoughtful nor is it likely to foster goodwill.

Discussion of rights in a way which respects all would be my object - I have worked to advance the position of all 9 Equality Act protected characteristics (and some arguably not yet covered). Where there are conflicts (or perceived conflicts) then advances require goodwill, thoughtfulness and understanding.

Or, of course, some can continue to throw rocks. A personal choice.

She's transitioned in every way possible the people here seem to want trans women to transition

I don't want anyone to transition. It's not possible to change sex so it's selling dysphoric people a lie, and it comes with the risk of horrific complications and a life as a permanent patient. Why would I wish that on anyone? I want people to be happy in and with their own existing body, with robust and sensitive support for dysphoria. We don't encourage people with anorexia to get their stomach stapled so why are people with gender dysphoria 'treated' by removing healthy body parts? You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the GC feminist position here.

I'm sorry that Nikkie was let down so badly in childhood by their mother; I'm sorry that they were denied the opportunity to develop naturally to sexual maturity, and I'm sorry that they now found themselves in the awful position of being under threat of blackmail. I also hope their fiance is coping well with learning that Nikkie is not who they thought they were, and I hope this doesn't encourage any more young people to believe they were 'born in the wrong body'.

Interesting the number of 'I never realised' type comments on this thread. I thought GC women always claimed they could spot every trans person a mile off

Because seeing a person on a youtube video from shoulders up and no visible adams apple due to their build is exactly the same as meeting a person of the same build in person and clocking they are male......

No, Robin some men are a threat to women, that is what is discussed here. Acknowledging this fact in the discussion of women's rights does not lead to some random chancer blackmailing a transwoman YouTuber. By your logic women's rights should never be discussed in case it leads to someone somewhere committing a crime. Very convenient way to silence women.

i had no idea, genuinely, im 5'9 over size 8 feet, not all women are dainty

I'm in the "no shit Sherlock" camp myself. How awful that a mum can have that narrative from day one though. Kids have no chance.

Ah the first rule of misogyny Robin: women are responsible for what men do

You're ok Lang I haven't got a clue either...

Erm can we give it a rest with 6 foot thing - I’m 6,1 and it isn’t that unusual these days and not all of us are slim and dainty - I’m in my 40s and when I was at school back in the day there were 3 of us over 6’ in my class then

Well if never have guessed in a million years and not that it matters but I really wouldn’t have. I think it’s her body shape you don’t associate Such a feminine fuller figure with being transgender do you

Interesting the number of 'I never realised' type comments on this thread. I thought GC women always claimed they could spot every trans person a mile off

Nope...

Sympathies for Nikkie, dreadful that she was being bkackmailed

What about respect for women, and not being defined as female according to if you like playing with Barbie and makeup? That's offensive and everything feminists have been fighting against.

Coco is a long-standing poster, as a simple search would have confirmed.

Ah ok I get it now I was confused which way round

She has already transitioned.

rocketmen where do you get the impression that 'people here' want 'full transition'? There's no such thing as full transition anyway, sex change is impossible, facts aren't hate.

I don’t understand so she wants to change to be male or she was born biologically male but has already transitioned to be female ?

She's a trans woman. She's transitioned in every way possible the people here seem to want trans women to transition and people still won't offer her the basic respect of she/her pronouns. It's quite sad.

Good for her. The fact she has been blackmailed into this is awful.

It seems a shame that the only kind of transwomen some FWR posters think should be allowed to be discussed here are AGP perverts.

Poor nikki
100% all round.
Poor nikki

Complete aside, but why did someone get triggered about Dutch women being tall? They are the tallest nation on earth?
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/the-tallest-and-shortest-countries-in-the-world/

And yes, there are tall women (I'm 6ft) all round the world, but it's a fair comment to say tall women are more common in the Netherlands.