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Cry Me A Bloody River: Article about the Pathetic Plight of Period-Plagued Trans Men

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Durgasarrow · 12/01/2020 21:11

Lord, shrink me a violin so I can play my sad little heart out about the very very very special pain that our uteri having brothers have in getting and using period products. According to this article, period products are expensive, embarrassing, and inaccessible. Whereas for boring old Cisters, they are apparently free, and we gaily run through our offices waving tampons like torches and flapping our pads like happy handpuppets. Oh and we find them somehow "in stores?" Another interesting factlet: TM find it embarrassing to rip open tampon packages in the men's room. Much as women might feel if, um, males were allowed in the women's room? Just sayin.
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-men-pain-menstruation-more-just-physical-n1113961

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Findumdum1 · 13/01/2020 19:05

Some women may have to buy more that me and spend more than my £8.40 a year, yes (and some less). But even double the amount of tampons and pads as well, maybe 3x, 4x as much? so £30 or £40 per year? Even £50 odd per year. That is £5 a month. Or worse case £10 a month. That is not a huge amount of money and that is not period poverty, in the West, where all these transmen reporting being triggerred are located. Neither is the packaging in any way stereotypically girly or pretty.

JacquesHammer · 13/01/2020 18:59

It's all just lies isn't it?

That men have periods? Yes.

That some women spend considerable amounts on sanitary protection? No, that’s true.

Findumdum1 · 13/01/2020 18:57

I bought these tampons today from Morrisions. The packets are Green and Orange and the tampons are white with blue strings. They cost 70p each. This is enough to last me one and a half periods. So I buy a pack of super and a pack of super plus every 2nd month. That's £1.40 every 2 months. Or £8.40 per year.

It's all just lies isn't it?

Cry Me A Bloody River: Article about the Pathetic Plight of Period-Plagued Trans Men
CallofDoodee · 13/01/2020 18:37

It's the flip side of TW wanting/pretending to have periods because of course embracing and celebrating your periods is so womanly.

Yes, actual women just luuuuuurve getting their period apparently. It's just such an exciting time each month - especially if you are trying to get pregnant...

Oh and they are always getting 'caught short' and asking each other for tampons in public toilets. Sometimes a teenage girl might even ask a total stranger for help with how to insert a tampon......

CallofDoodee · 13/01/2020 18:32

“Having a period already causes me a lot of [gender] dysphoria, but this dysphoria becomes heightened when I have to shop for a product that is labeled as ‘women’s health’ and in most cases, is pretty and pink,” Jones explained.

How fucking insulting to suggest that all women are absolutely fine with 'pretty and pink'.

Just fuck off.

SarahTancredi · 13/01/2020 17:57

The strings are also colour coded with lilets.

But then real men arent afraid of colours so it shouldnt matter should it?

EmmaGrundyForPM · 13/01/2020 17:52

The colour coding on Lillet tampon boxes is crucial as far as I'm concerned. Day 1 and 2 when I'm bleeding heavily its orange.
I switch to purple on day 3 and if I'm lucky I can move down to green by the end of the day. Day 4 is green, day 5 is pink. Then just a pad for day 6.

Men don't have periods. Period.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 13/01/2020 17:09

Oopsie. I got my first strike. Apparently someone is feeling rather sensitive. 😁

FloralBunting · 13/01/2020 16:20

Of all things, I didn't think it was possible to make a complaint about your experiences of menstruation come across as deeply narcissistic. But that's the gift of this movement. Whatever you name, an adherent of the movement will be able to detail a very special reason why they suffer so much more than most.

When a woman talks to me about her period difficulties, I usually feel an instinctive solidarity and sympathy with her. Because I've never had another woman who accepted her femaleness use the opportunity to make out that her difficulties were of a uniquely oppressed order because of the colours on the boxes or the fact that you can't get them free with every Gregg's pasty.

PracticallyFamous · 13/01/2020 15:37

But...but...that last one has PINK on it Durgasarrow!

Durgasarrow · 13/01/2020 15:25

Or this one?

Cry Me A Bloody River: Article about the Pathetic Plight of Period-Plagued Trans Men
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Durgasarrow · 13/01/2020 15:23

Is this package really too feminine and flowery for a man to purchase?

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PracticallyFamous · 13/01/2020 13:45

But I guess being middle aged, having hot flushes, unpredicatble periods, mood swings, being written off and all the other things women put up with once done with periods is less alluring than being a pre pubescent girl bleeding from their naughty bits. Not that it's a sexual fetish or anything, of course.

Of course it's not a fetish. The fact 50-odd-year old transwomen are referring to themselves as "girls" and giggling about makeup is entirely normal and natural and exactly how women in the same age group behave.

Findumdum1 · 13/01/2020 13:18

That's another thng that puzzles me - where are the legions of transwomen/men cos playing being a perimenopausal, menopausal or post-menopausal woman? After all, biological women usually spend at least as much of their lives not having periods than they do having them, assuming they live to 80, possibly more years without them. So this is a big part of womanhood that you'd think they'd be keen to experience.

But I guess being middle aged, having hot flushes, unpredicatble periods, mood swings, being written off and all the other things women put up with once done with periods is less alluring than being a pre pubescent girl bleeding from their naughty bits. Not that it's a sexual fetish or anything, of course.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/01/2020 12:05

Completely agree, Clymene! Life without periods is bliss.

Melioration · 13/01/2020 10:15

I don’t think it will stop the cosplay. It just means the play without the cos with a more shocking effect. Anyone can do the cos nowadays.

Clymene · 13/01/2020 10:10

As a post menopausal woman, I have to say that the very best thing about it is no more periods. I had 40 years of them and I was glad to see the back of them. I'm sure I'm not alone!

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DickKerrLadies · 13/01/2020 10:04

And anyway, there is nothing whatsoever unmanly about pink, purple or flowers.

Indeed. But of course, it's nothing to do with stereotypes!

littlbrowndog · 13/01/2020 09:58

Bonkers just bonkers

CatInTheDaytime · 13/01/2020 09:57

It's the flip side of TW wanting/pretending to have periods because of course embracing and celebrating your periods is so womanly.

Hmm
OldCrone · 13/01/2020 09:54

It’s like some idea that because Kenny feels male they don’t do periods but the rest of us must just love ‘em cos they make us feel so damn womanly and feminine.

It seems to be the usual argument that 'I didn't like xyz about being a woman so I became a transman'. Therefore all women who haven't opted out of womanhood must love every single thing about being women, otherwise they would have transitioned too.

I don't understand how such people could have reached adulthood without realising how far from the truth this is.

Clymene · 13/01/2020 09:54

So Kenny has written an article based mainly on using an active imagination as it's not actually an issue for Kenny at all.

Is Kenny trying to position themselves as the voice of the neglected trans man? It seems very odd behaviour otherwise

CatInTheDaytime · 13/01/2020 09:53

OMG I can't believe the complaints about the cost of tampons etc being presented as if it's special oppression of poor trans men! You couldn't make it up. If only trans men would just accept they are women, their tampons would be free of course, like they are for all CIS women. Not!

And the pink and purple packaging - just a lie. Sanitary product packaging is largely white, blue and/or green because of their associations with cleanliness and a reluctance to suggest actual blood.

And anyway, there is nothing whatsoever unmanly about pink, purple or flowers. Plenty of men wear pink, purple and floral shirts for example.

Melioration · 13/01/2020 09:51

The puberty blockers stopped the periods at 16. They stop the hormones that set off the cascade of sex hormones.

He says there was some spotting on starting testosterone which then stopped.

I think a campaign to change sanitary products for everyone based on such a short term experience is somewhat disingenuous.

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