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Sexism, racism and my opinion of Donald Trump

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AutumnRose1 · 12/01/2020 11:49

I've long said that I found old fashioned racism easier to deal with - say from the 80s. It was more like being questioned for the colour of your skin and things people associated with culture. But it seems to me, you answered the questions, people felt assured I wasn't "different", and then moved on and accepted me as English. Now it's "you are a minority, so you SHOULD think this way".

Recently I'm thinking the old fashioned sexism, much as I hate it, was easier to deal with that the kind of misogyny masquerading as something else.

And suddenly I am finding myself understanding why people voted for Trump. Initially I was horrified. But if it's really the case that TW can access women's domestic violence centres, that it's accepted widely that TWAW, that I am a TERF for worrying about mixed sex wards, that Elizabeth Warren and other politicians are so happy and excited about children having medical treatment based on sex stereotypes...

I think I now prefer old fashioned sexism too. It's so fucking depressing. How did we get here? Where "grab her by the pussy" is a better option than anything else?

and also I'm wondering...has anyone else felt this way about Trump and America? I used to spend a bit of time over there for work (c 20 years ago). Sounds like another planet from what I hear now.

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mummmy2017 · 12/01/2020 13:15

What the UK new is not reporting is that there is an upturn in employment for the places with mass unemployment, Trump kept his word and has help many gain jobs and help.
There is a backlash against rich families who have never worked running things in the USA, and how Hilary got off, but Trump is being chased.
He wants to run at a profit and promote the country and this is hitting a cord in many people, but the Media are not happy about this.

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AutumnRose1 · 12/01/2020 12:59

mummy yes, I see that now.

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mummmy2017 · 12/01/2020 12:51

Trump got in for the same reason as Boris.
The poor and disappointed have someone to vote for.

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AutumnRose1 · 12/01/2020 12:47

"Unless you think that people have, for some reason, completely changed in the last 20 years?"

yes, I do think they have changed. Just as people do change over time.

I think the internet has given traction to a lot of ideas that wouldn't have had a wider audience than three academics chatting in a pub, sure.

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SameOldHorrorStory · 12/01/2020 12:27

20 years ago, Twitter didn’t exist and this has largely shaped the way stories are reported over the last decade. Before Twitter, a reader wrote in to the media and expressed disgust and the media reported on it as ‘one viewers disgust’. Now, people express their disgust on Twitter and the media reports on it and presents it as ‘viewers are disgusted’.

It’s not a different planet, we’re just playing by different rules. Unless you think that people have, for some reason, completely changed in the last 20 years?

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