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Doyoumind · 12/01/2020 10:10

This is trending on twitter at the moment. If it isn't a perfect example of TRAs wanting to shut down discussion, I don't know what is.

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DickKerrLadies · 14/01/2020 08:22

That is interesting Autumn

At first, it was just perplexing but then it got really interesting!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 14/01/2020 06:44

My mind is officially blown. I really, really want to go back to feeling pro the trans movement because it's inclusive and open. But having started really reading about it, I'm seeing oppression of/threats women all over it.

You're far from the only one. Most of us have been where you are now. "Listen to transwomen", they said. So I did, and yikes, and now I'm 100% GC.

AutumnRose1 · 14/01/2020 00:30

Well this is interesting

twitter.com/zeno001/status/1216868437043154944

Honestly, I don’t know how Glinner copes. Balls of steel!

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 13/01/2020 09:47

terry

Grin

Spot on

DickKerrLadies · 13/01/2020 09:39

It must have been at least a few days since this was posted:

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/01/2020 09:33

I'd bang Glinner for creating Father Jack alone.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/01/2020 21:10

Glinner's followers have crept up today.

Oh, you mean to say a campaign to silence someone has had the opposite effect? Colour me shocked. There's no business like show business, eh, Barbara?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/01/2020 21:07
Grin
jamrollyolly · 12/01/2020 21:05

Terry Grin

terryleather · 12/01/2020 20:54

Saw this on Spinster today, seems appropriate Grin

#banglinner
drspouse · 12/01/2020 20:12

I'm pretty sure Mrs Glinner pops up around these parts from time to time--wonder what she thinks of all this inappropriate attention to her DH
Down with this sort of thing!

NewYearsHumberElla · 12/01/2020 20:09

damn it, I want my innocent liberalism back!!

I think a lot of us feel like that Peck

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 12/01/2020 20:06

Anyone else just discovered this world via #BanGlinner?
My mind is officially blown. I really, really want to go back to feeling pro the trans movement because it's inclusive and open. But having started really reading about it, I'm seeing oppression of/threats women all over it. I know you've all been here a while and I'm late to the game but... damn it, I want my innocent liberalism back!!

ChattyLion · 12/01/2020 20:00

#susanalbumparty Glitterball Grin

Hope the authoritian bullies keep on plugging this #ban shite- just brings more sunlight and fresh air on to those authoritarian bullies. And their total, gaping lack of an argument.

(though I’m sorry for Glinner, this can’t be nice for him)

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 12/01/2020 19:41

Thank you, @Doyoumind and @Qcng, for the answers to my question. That's very helpful. So in terms of potential sexual abuse, TW in female spaces is approximately equivalent to the same number of men in that space. (With some indication - though needs more investigation - that rates may be higher).

Qcng · 12/01/2020 18:59

Well, to be fair, Justine Mumsnet has had a lot of abuse, as has JK Rowling.
They know it's a movement by women for women, which is why Mumsnet has been relentlessly under attack for so long.

Glinner, shock, is a bloke. He's getting the same treatment, and it's brilliant. It's shining a spotlight on the madness. I can't thank Glinner, Justine, JK, enough.

More high profile people need to come out.

GrinitchSpinach · 12/01/2020 18:53

I imagine the TRA lot can't comprehend the idea that the GC movement is generally women. It is inconceivable to them that a man isn't in charge.
Yep yep yep.

Am I the only one who can't stop giggling over the "bang Glinner" stuff? I can't not read it that way. I'm pretty sure Mrs Glinner pops up around these parts from time to time--wonder what she thinks of all this inappropriate attention to her DH, especially coming so soon after the suggestions he had the "dick of the year"? I would be annoyed, but then again I'm a humorless shrew. Grin

Qcng · 12/01/2020 18:51

Well,

TheBullshitGoesOn · 12/01/2020 18:45

I imagine the TRA lot can't comprehend the idea that the GC movement is generally women. It is inconceivable to them that a man isn't in charge. And because Glimmer is vocal and prominent they assume that person is him.

It is very telling of their view of women as subhumans that they can't understand that this is primarily a movement of women. And that men aren't running it.

Qcng · 12/01/2020 18:35

how rare it is that transwomen sexually abuse biological women? Is it more common than the abuse of women by other biological women?

From my understanding based on a Swedish study, transwomen are as likely as men to commit all types of abuse, including violent and sexual abuse. (Men commit 98% of all sex crime and 80% of all violent crime, TW will be as likely as the next man to be an offender, obviously because NAMALT it's not a huge percentage of men overall). Statistically, TW will be far more likely to abuse a woman, than a woman abuse a woman.

However, Fair play for Women released data under the freedom of information act, that 41% of all transwomen in prison are in prison for sex offenses, (eg pedophilia, sex assault, downloading illegal porn, rape, voyeurism etc). This is actually much higher than the non-transgender male prison population, of which about 19% prisoners are inside for sex offenses. So to say TW commit (sex) crime at the same rate as males is something worthy of more research.

It is safe to say that statistically TW as a percentage of the population will commit sex crime against women at a far higher frequently than women will commit crime against women, but because the population of TW is low, the individual occurrences will be very low too, so it depends how you're looking at the statistics.

justcly · 12/01/2020 17:07

@snowblight:

Is "handmaiden" inherently insulting, bearing in mind that you're speaking from a perspective that is happy to label people with "cis" and "terf"? And even if the labelling of one person as a bigot is correct, does that mean it's okay to subscribe it to every dissenting view? To "cancel" other human beings? To no-platform people? I have said before that there is a cognitive dissonance here - the subscription of ideas you don't like to individual people. Have you even noticed, or appreciated, that you are permitted to spout your misogyny here? That no one has attempted to block or ban you? Doesn't that give you pause for thought?

BickerinBrattle · 12/01/2020 16:47

The trans movement has serious problems with misogyny and homophobia

The movement also has serious problems with NPD. Those who’ve had the misfortune to become entangled with it before immediately recognise it.

Those who’ve never had that particular misfortune see it and think: WTF?

Witness the recent TRA appearing with Brendan O’Neill and declaring that the public must accommodate his needs.

Doyoumind · 12/01/2020 16:33

There's a lot of info on several threads on here. Try this one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Glinner's followers have crept up today.

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ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 12/01/2020 16:23

I'm one of Glinner's newly acquired followers. I'm not especially well informed on these things and wouldn't say I feel confident to be on any specific "side", but have watched with increasing horror how discussions are shut down.

There's one thing I tried to find out on Google, after reading a tweet, and couldn't find info on. I wondered if anyone on this thread can direct me to relevant stats (didn't want to start whole thread on it because there may already be plenty). The issue is: how rare it is that transwomen sexually abuse biological women? Is it more common than the abuse of women by other biological women? Sorry if this is a naive question.

TiredofthisBS · 12/01/2020 16:00

Whilst I long ago got rid of my Twitter account. I have been sporadically checking on Glinner's account and I see that his follower account is going up quite rapidly.

That #banglinner is doing such a good job.

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