M&S + John Lewis - your poor Christmas sales will be due to the contempt you've shown your female customers

I’ve reported a tanga brief review by a male on the M&S website and, depending on the reply I receive, will be boycotting their stores (and so will my husband, parents and my adult daughter) and also changing my bank account from M&S).

I feel ill when I think about the world that my daughter, and any children she might have, are set to inherit. I never thought I’d live in a country that was so unsafe for women and girls, much less that it would be my own country 😟

I haven’t spent one single solitary penny in M&S since they showed their utter contempt for women. Hope they go under

It might benefit your feelings of integrity - but all high street stores will follow common or accepted practice.......the battle is elsewhere for me. I, personally, wouldn't like to see M& S and John Lewis and their many loyal staff and go under at all.......I've bought clothing at both over the the recent period.....and food, too. All high street stores have the same policy - as much as I disagree with it.

I buy local and independent as much as possible anyway......and don't do much on-line shopping......I'll continue to use John Lewis as I can get most household things I need there and at a reasonable price.

The John Lewis trans policy has been in place for many years - I discovered fairly recently, and I've yet to be confronted with men in the changing rooms ( although I appreciate other women might have); with the exception of last week...when a rather feminine, young, Arabic man ( maybe who identified as trans, I don't know) was offering his mother his opinion on her outfit outside of a cubicle a couple of rows down to mine.

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Someone has played too many video games, and is now waving a sword around in public to scare off women instead of orcs.

My daughter used to work at Aldi, and the reasons they can keep their prices so low is because they exploit their staff. They may be paid a little higher than the average, but they are expected to do everything - including unloading lorries; warehouse work, shelf stacking, and they have quotas for the number of customers they are supposed to get through the tills in certain time limits.

Achievement unlocked. Sweet Jesus...

Yes Kittens it was the same person.

Yes top post michelle

flashing is going to be seen as rather twee by July
Spat my tea out, it's all over me. Funniest thing I've read this week.

For the same reason that some people who define themselves as highly vulnerable and fragile with a likelihood of self harming if upset by others will warn you that they will rape/kill you/wish you dead if you thwart them.

Lundy Bancroft has a whole range of books on this.

I would definitely walk out of a bathroom if a TRA was in there...especially if they had a epee with them! Why?!!

And when you pin it down and ask: what is in this for the people you're doing this to?

The sole answer is: this is just about I Want To. It gives me the feelz I want. And suggesting I should deny myself to consider my impact on anyone else is an unacceptable limit on the wonder of Me and my need for my feelz. (Everyone else can put their feelz away about how they feel about this though: everyone else is cast as Mummy/unconditional enabling service provider and shouldn't even have feelz.)

Well we all know about escalation. What gave the buzz last week won't do this week. And so it goes on.

I swear I want to sit the whole of ruddy Westminster down and do some serious training in recognising personality disorders and what Not To Do when working with highly difficult people. With no ability for reciprocal social contracts, and no sense of empathy or respect for others. And addictions.

Considering how fast the goalposts have shifted from 'we just want to pee/there's a tiny number/you won't even know' to 'you will use a gender neutral/mixed sex space and to be uncomfortable with that/have any expectation of bodily privacy from the opposite sex is transphobic' and it's fine to talk about fishy women and have men with erections in full pup play outfits and drag queens with full on sexual names introducing themselves to small children, I think flashing is going to be seen as rather twee by July.

Boundaries ruptured in all directions. There's a reason why so many of the people driving this movement call themselves 'anarchists' and 'queering' is about destroying all standards, boundaries, limits. (Only other peoples' though. Not theirs.) This is movement of giant toddlers, and a nation of wimpy authorities who have lost the nerve to say 'no' and wait out tantrums.

Do you think we're going towards a time when we're going to be reminiscing about how flashing used to actually be a crime?

I think the Woke idiots will get us perilously close.

Also, I fully expect "she walked out of a space after seeing me and my feminine penis and that's a crime, somehow" to end up in an actual court at some point, probably in Canada or on the US West Coast. Portland maybe.

Yes, kittens. I remember as a girl reporting a flasher to the police and they were great (apparently he was a repeat offender). Of course, these days presumably he'd have cornered me in a woman's toilet rather than loitering in an alley outside the cinema. Do you think we're going towards a time when we're going to be reminiscing about how flashing used to actually be a crime?

Yes, I remember that epee person was raging that the woman saw them and then left.

So much for just wanting to pee...

Kittens they might not have posed in the toilet, they took the photo after recounting how a woman removed herself from the toilets upon seeing them (probably she just didn't tut loudly enough). There was definitely a ladies toilet involved. I may have confused the location of the photo itself with that of the transwoman who took photos of themselves naked and with their penis erect in the ladies toilets of a women's domestic abuse refuge.

But it never happens, obviously.

"We just want to epée..."

(Makes sense now.)

A bit like why someone would wear their fetish rubber suit to work under their work clothes.

Swords, rubber, routing around for some used sanpro...just your average loo stop before your 10 o'clock...

Also, I fully expect "she walked out of a space after seeing me and my feminine penis and that's a crime, somehow" to end up in an actual court at some point, probably in Canada or on the US West Coast. Portland maybe.

That doesn't look like a toilet, though why anyone would need to take their epee to work is another question.

The erm.. person actually reported a woman who refused to validate them (this is hard bloody work) by using an adjacent cubicle? 🤮

This one?

One of the reviews above even says it’s not a perversion!
You’d wonder why it needs mentioning, so...

I think that was two different situations.

If I remember, the TW upset about a woman leaving the toilets - without having established if the woman had a reason like having forgotten something or her phone ringing - was the thread about the Civil Service? I can't remember if it was a theoretical scenario or an actual one.

the transwoman in question then posed in said office toilets with a fencing epée (a sword, for anyone not familiar with fencing terms) wrapped in the trans flag colours?

If there was media coverage of this please share! Pink and blue baseball bats of social justice, the posh version.