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M&S + John Lewis - your poor Christmas sales will be due to the contempt you've shown your female customers

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Sunkisses · 10/01/2020 10:26

It's all over the news that M&S and John Lewis have had terrible Christmas sales. I am absolutely sure this is due to the terrible press coverage they received and viral threads of Twitter about how they allow men into the female changing rooms, the contempt they treated their female customers with when we voiced our complaints, and the 1,000s of us who pledged not to shop with them over Christmas. I stuck by my pledge over Christmas and they lost about £1,000 of custom from me with gifts and food. Anyone else kept up their boycott?

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 23/01/2020 11:48

I’ve actually really enjoyed going around the local shops and searching online for local female businesses. I’ve got to know so many people and have convinced other friends to try the same. The responses from those that have done the same, due to their new found knowledge, has been overwhelmingly positive. We’ve all bought things we didn’t even know we needed. 🤣 I bought some locally made hair oil and I can’t believe the compliments I’m getting. My hair never looked this good with any of the factory made stuff.

peachescariad · 23/01/2020 11:43

Boycotted both M&S and JL over Christmas and I will continue to do so...however, I did buy some Christmas loo roll in the sale....but we at least we all wiped our bums on it...

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 23/01/2020 11:30

signed The Women

You mean signed, The adult human females

mcduffy · 23/01/2020 11:23

I'm in charge of a collection for a colleague and have got £80 to buy them a voucher. They've requested M&S, JL or amazon. Easy Grin

Sicario · 23/01/2020 11:05

I have not spent a single penny in M&S, JL or Waitrose since they joined the war on women.

Uncompromisingwoman · 22/01/2020 18:19

Purchased myself a new coat yesterday as my current M & S one is showing its age. Lands End got my custom instead of M & S. That's my way forward.

BoogieFeet · 22/01/2020 17:54

They were my go to shop for lots of things...just bought a duvet and pillows elsewhere. If I was still shopping at M&S I would have ended up buying a few more things that I thought of while in the store or online..The boycott is definitely good for my wallet.

EmpressLangClegInChair · 22/01/2020 17:24

I’ve stopped. It’s annoying because I’ve recently taken up crochet & love the JL haberdashery but I’ll find an independent or buy online.

BlackeyedSusan · 22/01/2020 17:24

I would have normally used m and s for food at the hospital. Not this time. Ok not a lot of cash but the little bits add up.

Mayomaynot · 22/01/2020 15:47

Thanks LangClegsOpinionIsNoted

If a shop doesn't care about the safety of women then they can't really complain if women stop shopping there. It's not like we haven't told them why.

Ninkanink · 22/01/2020 14:15

Think about it - a thousand women, each not spending let’s say a thousand pounds with M&S/JL over Nov-Dec, that is an awful lot of revenue lost. I dare say there are many more than that boycotting (myself included), and likely some of those would ordinarily have spent far more than ‘just’ a thousand over the past three months. Plus, the two or three women, at a conservative estimate, that each of those women have spoken to and who may well have joined the boycott.

This is hurting them where it counts. However that is not the reason for my boycott - I simply refuse to spend with a company that treats me and other women with contempt. I shall continue to boycott until they come to their senses.

LangClegsOpinionIsNoted · 22/01/2020 13:54

Oh yes, me too, SingingLANGly.

SingingLANGly · 22/01/2020 13:36

And I'm still boycotting...

LangClegsOpinionIsNoted · 22/01/2020 13:28

. They have spoken and so I shall listen and respond accordingly.

Very well put.

Mayomaynot · 22/01/2020 11:10

I didn't buy anything from M&S this Christmas. I haven't bought anything from them since the boycott was in place and I am someone who used to buy lots from there. I wrote to them and received a very patronising reply. They have spoken and so I shall listen and respond accordingly.

Tubbytwo · 21/01/2020 09:12

I think you have the makings of a good rallying cry ' HandsOffMyRights, I won't buy your tights"! Sorry, I am happy to find any crumb of humour I can in these days of totalitarian rule :(

HandsOffMyRights · 21/01/2020 08:49

womenswear
I didn't purposely miss out a letter (or replace one with an X Angry)

HandsOffMyRights · 21/01/2020 08:48

Great, M&S drafts in Topshop boss to head up womenswear.

Topshop also encourages men to change with girls
Waiting for womeswear to change its name to peopleswear

www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/01/ms-drafts-another-topshop-executive/

GirlDownUnder · 21/01/2020 02:41

- signed The Women 

Might need to add the definition of 'woman' just to help them out 🤷‍♀️

OhHolyJesus · 20/01/2020 21:20

How about an open letter Liston four concerns and respectively asking for answers - signed The Women Wink

Tubbytwo · 20/01/2020 21:01

I guessed most of you had probably already written too and I'm sorry that you've all had the same response. They've not even had the courtesy to reply to me with their woke weasel words. I shall patiently keep down voting the AGP knicker reviews even though I feel grubby after reading them.

It's pathetic isn't it? That's all the 'power' we have in the face of intolerable danger to at least half the population :(

Uncompromisingwoman · 20/01/2020 20:53

I think most of us on this thread Tubbytwo have written, cancelled our accounts and are generally boycotting them. We've all had dismissive emails back so they are presumably far more concerned about Stonewall etc than they are about the safety and feelings of their women customers.

Tubbytwo · 20/01/2020 20:47

Please send your observations to M&S. I’ve written to them but received no answer. Quel surprise 🤬 I’d like M&S management to be inundated with valid complaints about their policies that endanger women and girls. If enough of us protest maybe they’ll get it into their thick skulls. Otherwise how many women and girls will perverts need to be film or attack before common effing sense prevails?

Uncompromisingwoman · 20/01/2020 20:38

Noticed this today. This predator has been banned from entering or loitering outside any female-only facilities and must declare any membership of spas or leisure facilities to police using his real name" once he is released from prison .
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18169169.pervert-filmed-naked-women-darwen-leisure-centre-trafford-centre---children-changing-rooms/

Yet he will be completely free to use M & S's lingerie and other mixed sex changing rooms because any man who is more comfortable using them is free to do so. Hmm

Evenquieterlife33 · 16/01/2020 23:40

I was thinking exactly this O.P. Women just quietly voting with our feet. I normally pop in at Christmas to get decorations ( I’m a bit obsessed.) and I like to update each year but I went to an alternative retailer who wants my money. I have not bought a thing in John Lewis since. Not one thing. I’ve also stopped using a few other stores where I feel uncomfortable changing. We have options and we are using them.