M&S + John Lewis - your poor Christmas sales will be due to the contempt you've shown your female customers

@VinandVigour that's really interesting about the spreadsheet, thanks for mentioning your experience! When I closed mine and explained why literally nobody at M and S gave a toss. I'm pleased someone somewhere is noticing it.

I didn't buy anything from there this Xmas so that's at least £250 missing for them. It may only be little compared to what their figures are, but I talk to family and friends about why not and the ripples spread outwards

Boycotting too. Tbh, I prefer a rummage through TKMaxx anyway for clothing. Much more interesting choices.

I used to spend £30-40 pw on top-up shopping in my local M&S Food, but I use the Sainsburys local or Coop instead now, so that's at least a couple of grand a year.

Only thing I miss are their minisub rolls. Cant seem to find an equivalent.

How do you determine that the majority of people here claim they have met a transwoman in the changing rooms? Are you just making it up?

Isn’t it funny how manner posters are keen to tell us that women refusing to share changing rooms with men and voting with their money had absolutely nothing to do with falling sales. Are they trying to convince us to get back into our little gender boxes and do as we’re told, do you think? Why so keen to tell us that we’re wrong?

Snowblight, are you Steve Rowe?!
You seem to be desperately trying to convince yourself that our boycott of your company hasn’t worked!
Joking apart, pissing off their business’s core demographic is a particularly stupid move on M and S’s part. I’m happy to continue my own boycott - I got my Christmas food from the Farmers Market, and will not set foot in M and S for either food or clothes again.

I'm an expat in a country where good quality clothes are generally imported & cost ££££s.

I'm in the U.K. twice a year & do all my clothes shopping for a family of four in two massive blitzes. Usually lots at M&S (school uniform, bras for teenage daughters, food for Xmas shop for parents).

Not this time. I spent my money elsewhere. To the tune of about a grand, I reckon.

& I won't be back to M&S.

It was the really weird jumper advert that did it for me...

Yes, still boycotting. Closed my M&S credit card too, which had a positive balance on it, so I got a nice refund. And the chap I dealt with made it clear that there was a whole list of women closing their card accounts, and that a spreadsheet was going to ‘senior staff’ daily!

The only M&S thing that came into the house was a gift of a box of chocolates, which I shall put into a raffle.

Unfortunately I can’t boycott Waitrose as it’s the only supermarket I can get to easily.

M & S have lost their edge.
They don't know who their target market is anymore
I buy bra's from them but nothing else now.
Their cafe's are a disgrace
Dirty crockery
Miserable staff
Overpriced food

@snowblight:

Cognitive dissonance. You want to watch that. It's habit-forming.

First rule of marketing - keeping existing customers is cheaper and more effective than trying to get new ones at their expense. I've broken the M&S habit, plenty of alternatives out there.

@snowblight - we don't care what you think!

You make the mistake of thinking the majority of members share your views. Most of them avoid the supposed 'feminist' board like the plague and want nothing to do with the bigotry here

Yet here you are - obsessively policing women, our thoughts and actions on here

Even if only 10% of users boycotted - that's still a loss of 200,000 customers.

I believe that as much as I believe most of the exaggerations on here. Bit like the one where the majority of you have supposedly met a trans person in a changing room.

@snowblight never have poster's style and name been more appropriate for one another!

Feminism is one of MN's most popular topics and has been for ages. Even if only 10% of users boycotted - that's still a loss of 200,000 customers. You can try to sprinkle your depressing blizzard over that all you like but we'll just plough on through your snowflakey slush like we always have.

made me thik that they were trying to do a more secule chrems

Wouldn't bother me. Most people who celebrate Christmas in this country couldn't care less about the reason behind it anyway.

I ment to say jl had the odd decs

don't knoe if this is relevant it probble is not but there chrmas decrons were a bit odd and incled a pink budder and speing onins it felt a bit odd for wat is a cristen holed the party theam thy had as well made me thik that they were trying to do a more secule chrems easpel wene one lioks at sandrys and what thay had called ther chrasm ball bales
I aploiges for speling im vry dilesxic

You make the mistake of thinking the majority of members share your views. Most of them avoid the supposed 'feminist' board like the plague and want nothing to do with the bigotry here.

LOL. That's what the Labour Party said, dear.

Stopped shopping in M&S before all that kicked off. I don’t want pants, socks and other clothes treated with anti-bacterials & anti fungals.

Would have spent more in John Lewis if they’d had stuff in stock.

There's a reason politicians and retailers fall over themselves to promote themselves on MN. Can you tell me what it is?

You make the mistake of thinking the majority of members share your views. Most of them avoid the supposed 'feminist' board like the plague and want nothing to do with the bigotry here.

I'm standing firm.

I didn't spend the £300+ in either of them on gifts, food and clothing. I've stopped popping to M&S for odd little bits and pieces when out. I even returned the Christmas presents I was bought including some lovely soft leather gloves. And explained rather loudly why I was returning everything, even showing my email to a couple of ladies in the queue behind me.

I have discovered some lovely independent shops though, mostly owned by women so it's a double win for me.

Yes, haven't spent any money in M&S or JL and I would have spent 100s of pounds in them combined by now. No more.

But Birds Eye? I thought they resisted throwing women and girls under the bus, or is there something I don't know? I've been buying their potato waffles since 'potato' and we've developed an unhealthy addiction. I'll go cold turkey on the potato waffles if I have to though.

I too have found lots of independent retailers who don't spend loads of money on policies that repeatedly tell women and girls they don't give a shit how 'comfortable' they feel or whether they have basic safety. And repeatedly focus on men who desperately want to invade women and girls spaces and not take 'no' for an answer.

No it is my reality, not a claim. I am shopping for 2 suits this weekend for my children who are attending their grandmothers funeral next week. The thing about us 40 something plus women is on the whole we dont need to make things up on social media.

Haha @snowblight - luckily cold hard cash cares nothing for "wot you reckon".

There's a reason politicians and retailers fall over themselves to promote themselves on MN. Can you tell me what it is?