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Our favourite Canadian is at it again

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OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 07/01/2020 10:53

From Twitter:

"Yaniv’s new complaint again targets an esthetics salon run by women of immigrant background. She Point Beauty Studio is operated by East Indian women who are adherents to the Sikh religion. Yaniv approached the studio in August 2019 and first requested a Brazilian bikini wax.

"The studio refused, stating that their services are only for women. Yaniv then requested leg waxing services. Leg waxing takes place in private with the customer in their underwear or nude from the waist down.

"She Point Beauty Studio rejected Yaniv’s request for services due to religious, cultural and safety reasons, and because the salon services are specialized to women. Yaniv filed the complaint against She Point Beauty Studio in early October 2019.

"A hearing date has not yet been set for Yaniv’s new complaint. It is anticipated it will proceed to a hearing sometime in 2020."

Isn't the definition of stupidity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

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HandsOffMyRights · 07/01/2020 13:41

JY is addicted to the exposure this brings.

Can individuals keep bringing cases against others just for shits and giggles? Can't such characters be reprimanded/fined for wasting the court's time?

How does JY fund this hobby? And it is a pastime, when the poor women are working to keep a roof over their heads/support their families.

Did JY target a male last time (the gynaecologist) or is it only females (from minority backgrounds) that JY targets?

Datun · 07/01/2020 13:34

Yes, exactly. The salon only provides the service to female customers. In Canadian law, Yaniv is female. Legally, that sounds to me as if Yaniv has a strong case - unless they decide this is vexatious litigation.

Whilst the Canadian government, and indeed most Governments, wilfully ignore the fetish element to many males transitioning, TRAs will go out of their way to force a legal precedent that allows them to get their rocks off, completely legitimately.

And to be able to publicly vilify any woman who objects.

And it would appear that governments, across-the-board, are utterly petrified to acknowledge even the existence of the fetish, despite how publicly prevalent it is, and how it's under the umbrella of any trans organisation.

Yaniv's proclivities are so extreme and their interest in children so open, one would hope that, at some point at least, the dangers would be acknowledged.

ArranUpsideDown · 07/01/2020 13:17

Yaniv is due in court on the 13th for the tazer charges so may not be around afterwards to appear at the HRT

Blaire White's video on this was eye-opening. BW is hoping for a taser-related prison sentence for JY although apprehensive of the choice of prison.

www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=dCCbs_imjAw

BW's reasoning for this is interesting. I've tried to outline the reasons for this and can't so can only refer people to the video if they want to know why.

If the allegations that BW reports are correct, I'm horrified that it's possible that even this is not necessarily relevant to the 'merits' of JY's new case.

FlaviaAlbia · 07/01/2020 13:14

Calculating isn't he? The last judgment left a massive loophole he's dived straight into.

Still targeting immigrant women, but this time in a salon not their own homes.

RoyalCorgi · 07/01/2020 13:06

Even if a judge doesn't like it he or she will have to comply with Canadian law.

Yes, exactly. The salon only provides the service to female customers. In Canadian law, Yaniv is female. Legally, that sounds to me as if Yaniv has a strong case - unless they decide this is vexatious litigation.

If Yaniv wins, at least it will have the merit of pointing out to the rest of the world how absurd Canadian law is.

WireBrushAndDettolMaam · 07/01/2020 12:53

Yaniv is due in court on the 13th for the tazer charges

More legitimate reason to refuse service to them.

MidnightBlue28 · 07/01/2020 12:41

Yaniv is due in court on the 13th for the tazer charges so may not be around afterwards to appear at the HRT

rednsparkley · 07/01/2020 12:35

Notbadconsidering my thoughts exactly. What a revolting trio to have representing your nation 🤮🤮

nauticant · 07/01/2020 12:25

I'm with allmywhat. Don't assume that just because Yaniv is acting abusively he won't be supported by the law. Even if a judge doesn't like it he or she will have to comply with Canadian law.

HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 07/01/2020 12:12

The irony of Yaniv behaving like a dominant and bullish male is astounding

WireBrushAndDettolMaam · 07/01/2020 12:10

Instead, just say: “we are not taking on new clients at this time”

JY could easily prove this was a lie by asking a female friend to book the same treatment. The salons own appointment book will prove them to be lying.

or “we are fully booked at present”

JY books the appointments ahead. If they were fully booked they wouldn’t make JYs appointment in the first place.

I think the fact JY has been in the press and legally identified as targeting these type of business previously should be enough grounds for them to refuse JY service. They should be able to say “I have legitimate reason to believe my business is at risk from malicious civil action from the individual and on that basis I refuse service”

WireBrushAndDettolMaam · 07/01/2020 12:04

I’m not sure if this option exists in Canadian law but is there a thing where judges can place a restriction on a person filing any future law suits due to the number and motives of previous cases? JY is a claim happy- they’ve been doing it for years. Doesn’t there come a point where the system has to say “is this about the case or is there something else going on with this person- are they misusing the system?”

On one hand I’m glad JY is doing this. The more exposure this batshittery gets the better. On the other hand innocent women shouldn’t be collateral damage even if it helps expose JY and their ilk.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 07/01/2020 11:57

I think Yaniv must be known to all the salons now. I wish they would contact another salon and find a male waxer that agrees to work for them on the day Yaniv has an appointment. If Yaniv objects, the male can point out Yaniv’s transphobia as they identify as female. I wonder if Yaniv would go ahead with the appointment?

2BthatUnnoticed · 07/01/2020 11:54

All these small business owners must be advised not to say “we only do women”

Instead, just say: “we are not taking on new clients at this time” or “we are fully booked at present”

I agree, Canada seems to be so misogynistic that they may well compel women to touch this hideous person (not commenting on their looks, but their character)

allmywhat · 07/01/2020 11:50

The judgement the last time round explicitly left this loophole open. It could almost have been read as an invitation for transwomen to use the Human Rights Tribunal to harass women into waxing their legs.

I'm glad Yaniv is doing this. The HRT could get away with it without anyone even noticing if it was someone else and I suspect they were hoping it would be someone else.

StuckBetweenDarknessAndLight · 07/01/2020 11:47

This is just insane. How can this be happening? I think he'll win this one too.

sarahjconnor · 07/01/2020 11:44

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shedquarters · 07/01/2020 11:41

I believe there are plenty of salons that offer waxing services to both females and males. You certainly see adverts for both Brazilians and back, sac and crack. Perhaps some salons should contact Yaniv direct as there is obviously money to be made. Maybe the do.
I had a quick look at Yanivs Twitter page. There are reams and reams of abusive messages, ridiculing and humiliating. Honestly, it's a bit like the Jeremy Kyle Show, you feel some guilt and culpability for just watching. The whole situation is a complete circus. Yaniv (in his mindset/mental health) gets something from this cycle, and continues harassing certain women in this way. At what stage will the law protect women from this, and also protect Yaniv from himself.

Are there any grown ups in positions of influence and authority in Canada?

OhHolyJesus · 07/01/2020 11:29

I think it's the definition of insanity OP. Sounds about right to me.

olivertwistwantsmore · 07/01/2020 11:28

This case really will be about seeing if the court believes that a trans identifying person's right to not have hurt feelings trumps religious people's rights to work within their faith.

Yes. I hope sanity wins out here.

Siameasy · 07/01/2020 11:28

Dying at Ronnie McKinnon😂 sounds like some old boy😂
Yeah I thought Oger too.
The more this shit happens the more it looks like a fetish. Hoping a court will see it for what it is but not entirely confident about that.

BoswellSolver · 07/01/2020 11:28

Can't they argue that they can't wax anyone who their God would consider male? Then they can swerve the whole 'do you consider this hairy person to be male or female' question.

BovaryX · 07/01/2020 11:26

that a trans identifying person's right to not have hurt feelings trumps religious people's rights to work within their faith

Yes

BovaryX · 07/01/2020 11:25

I think so too Countess This person’s obsession with forcing a beauty salon to comply is apparently endless

SarahTancredi · 07/01/2020 11:23

This worries me too. IIRC the reason he lost the previous batch was because people who are trained to wax women women's pubic areas are not trained to wax scrotum safely, and this was the reason given by the judge. He's clever, I'll give him that - you can't say that men's legs are significantly different to women's legs when it comes to waxing them

I thought they lost the case because of the Intention behind the case not the fact that they had Male genitals?

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