Keir Starmer - GRA

And yet he comes across as just as spineless as the rest of them.

To be quite honest, I think he would make a wonderful party leader and would encourage him to say anything just to get there.

I have spoken to him, face to face, on several topics, fgm being the main one, and found him to be warm, knowledgeable and genuinely wanting to know more.

He would get my vote anyday.

I assume from his DPP days he is also conversant with that rape is with a penis and 51% of the population don’t have one... this is now being questioned...

I think he was just saying the bare minimum he could get away with
years ago when he was DPP I heard him speak about fgm - I'm afraid I can't remember any specifics but he definitely got it.

but realistically what else could he say?

Until a leadership candidate has the guts to speak truth to the membership, Labour will remain in the electoral wilderness. If he doesn't really believe it but says it anyway - he's no leader.

Oh, Labour have made themselves an irrelevancy. Doesn't really matter, does it, what he says or thinks?

Love how labour has turned on its feminist voter base with this.....as well as aspiring middle class, working class, rural living people, Scots.....etc...there can't be many more left they haven't pissed off....that leaves the affluent London base I guess then but they will be alright as that is a large part of what MPS they have left isn't it?

Would be fab to have him on for a webchat, nevertheless @mnhq.

Disappointing - but realistically what else could he say?

I don't think he believes it.

He is, by a country mile, the most likely candidate to lead Labour to victory in 2025. He can't have any influence on the GRA before then so it doesn't matter what he says. He pointed out that the Tories have parked it.

By 2025 we will either be living under Trans Totalitarian Rule or, more likely, this whole shitshow will have burst wide open and people will be rushing to cover their arses and pretending that they never bought into this misogynistic, children-harming ideology. Apart from Layla.

Continuity Keir.

Is it just me but does that audience look underwhelmed

The audience hasn't got a clue......

He was parroting the party line in a very rehearsed, studied, 'on message' way - but couldn't wait to get off the topic. He doesn't really believe it, and neither does anyone else. His discomfort was clear.

So all you have to do is claim victimhood to disguise your real agenda, constructive narrative around it, blind them with non sensical made up words and word salad, and Labour will be the useful idiots.

An insult to the real victims of oppression.

Labour won't stop doin that, the idea of helping people, even if those people are not real, gives them a sense of superiority and a buzz of euthoria.

FFS WHEN will Labour actually use their brain cells and get a reality check, rather than believe their own lazy BS by viewing everything through this victimhood/oppressed (whether real or not) woke narrative, and making changes on that basis, and claiming it as somehow progressive and claiming it is fighting for the (made up) victims. Then patting themselves on the back as being on the moral high ground.

Absolutely dangerous if they ever come to power.