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Scottish GRA consultation

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SidJS · 06/01/2020 18:37

Ends 17th March

Does anyone have the link / email address to submit responses to? All can and need to respond - not just the Scots!

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/01/2020 19:47

Good grief.

That's just fucking mental.

NonnyMouse1337 · 06/01/2020 19:44

Wow are there any depths the Trans Lobby won't sink to to push their agenda?! Confused

There was a thread in December on the new consultation and it has some interesting info that might help submissions.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3769789-Scottish-GRA-draft-legislation

I'll try to look for an email after dinner if no one else posts it in the meantime.

SunsetBeetch · 06/01/2020 19:44

It's absolutely disgusting, SidJS

More information on where this came from:

"This is Dr Peter Dunne. He’s not a medical doctor. He’s a law lecturer from Bristol. But he gets to dictate to Scotland what a woman is by claiming that penises and mastectomies are basically the same thing. “Non-normative” bits of the female spectrum.
This is deeply fucked up. t.co/eFAhnL9r6q"

twitter.com/1H4ND/status/1214156880777490433?s=19

"Also a member of TELI. So a Trans Rights Activist who presents himself as an impartial scholar."

twitter.com/1H4ND/status/1214217310367559680?s=19

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SidJS · 06/01/2020 19:10

Nonny thanks. Let’s keep it topical here so all can have resources to submit. Do you have the link/ email address?

If anyone is in doubt about the seriousness and risk to woman’s rights that we face - the document I’ve linked below is one that has informed the Scottish Government’s GRA proposals. Among the vast number of inaccuracies, untruths, assumptions and nonsense contained, they argue that male bodied Transwomen have ‘non-normative‘ bodies and compares male bodies with women who have mastectomies for breast cancer to rationalise why transwomen should have access to female only facilities.

Section - Abnormal Bodies p11

^ It would be unthinkable that general discomfort could prevent a cisgender woman from using segregated showering facilities after she had a double mastectomy. In reality, UK law tolerates a considerable amount of bodily diversity when cisgender and intersex persons use single-gender spaces. Why are trans persons treated differently? Levasseur suggests that trans bodies are ‘placed in a separate category for display and legal assessment, using sex stereotyping as a compass’ (2014: 1001). If cisgender and intersex persons can use women-only and men-only
services, even when they have non-normative bodies, concerns about bodily diversity do not justify the current legal position under the 2010 Act.
^

As a breast cancer survivor myself - who luckily only had a lumpectomy - I am spitting with rage. Nicola Sturgeon and her ilk call themselves ‘proud feminists’. How dare they. They don’t give a fuck.

research-information.bris.ac.uk/files/139271435/Bristol_Pure_Version_PD.pdf

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NonnyMouse1337 · 06/01/2020 18:47

Also, there is a For Women Scotland event in Edinburgh on 16th Jan if anyone is unaware and interested in attending.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/public-meeting-for-women-scotland-tickets-86438938191

Hopefully there will be other ones held elsewhere in Scotland.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 06/01/2020 18:42

Yes, I'm waiting til closer to the deadline.

NonnyMouse1337 · 06/01/2020 18:40

For Women Scotland have recommended to submit responses closer to the end of the deadline. That way if there are any new developments, evidence and court cases, it can be added to our submissions to add more weight. They and other organisations will be publishing their submissions which we can then use to help us write our own if we wish.