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"Most prolific" rapist reporting - male vs female victims

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QuentinWinters · 06/01/2020 14:10

Was just reading that about the conviction of the "most prolific rapist" for raping over 100 men.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50987823

My impression was the reporting focused more on the impact on his victims and used much stronger language about him being a "monster" who preyed on men "just out to have fun with their friends" than reporting on rapists targeting women. There is a description of how being raped has ruined the male victims lives (previously I associated the terms "ruined life" with men who were found not guilty of rape).

So I looked up reporting on John Worboys as he came to mind as a similarly prolific rapist

In his initial reporting it is more focused on Worboys and describes him crying at the guilty verdict.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/mobile/england/london/7931975.stm

Later reporting as the scale of his offending has become clear is still much more focussed on Worboys and his reasons for raping, and more objective and factual about his MO with no discussion of the emotional impact on his victims.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-48702572

Seems like rapes of men are treated much more sympathetically than those of women. Quelle surprise.

OP posts:
coragreta · 06/01/2020 15:02

But he is the most prolific, of course they are going to report about the victims. If he raped one man it wouldn't be getting as much attention.
And the men were believed because he videotaped it all. So what's not to believe.

RoyalCorgi · 06/01/2020 14:54

Do we know why the case is only being reported after the verdict? Were there reporting restrictions during the trial itself? I haven't seen anything about it .

Interesting to read about the one guy not being believed, mrsmuddlepies. Because otherwise my first instinct would be how utterly typical that there has been nothing at all about the men bringing it on themselves, being drunk, being promiscuous, wearing the wrong clothes etc. (Having said that, a trial report on the verdict wouldn't normally mention those things. But they are the kinds of things a defence lawyer would bring up, which is why I'm curious about it not having been reported up till now.)

mrsmuddlepies · 06/01/2020 14:43

The only guy to report the rape was not believed and was himself arrested. It was only when the rapist kept asking for his mobile phone and the police found a number of phones, none of which were able to be opened by the rapist because he didn't know the PIN numbers. When police opened the rapists phone they found 600 recorded rapes. It as only this hat made the police stop blaming the victim. Only one other victim had gone to the police (and the police did not pursue it).
I think many of the victims are still too embarrassed to come forward.
So in this case, there certainly was an original stance of not believing the victim until the videos were discovered.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 06/01/2020 14:43

Those quotes are from the judge (Suzanne Goddard QC), so if anyone is being more sympathetic to the victims, it's her.

StillWeRise · 06/01/2020 14:39

They know how prolific he was because he recorded his crimes and that's why his victims were believed. They themselves had no recollection of the crimes so didn't report.
As I recall they specifically said he was the most prolific rapist of men or women.
The report I heard (BBC R4 lunchtime) was very specific about his MO. Also commented on his demeanour in court.

Sickofpineneedles · 06/01/2020 14:38

I've had enough of this, this is there year I start doing something about it.... Not sure what but my daughter's will not grow up with this Angry

Sickofpineneedles · 06/01/2020 14:36

I'd just thought the same and was going to come on and say that.
Makes me soo angry the obvious differences not the fact this man hasnt got away with it but that I know others do.
The fucking bastard I know of that did similar got away with it... because you know it was women and they'd been out drinking and having fun with their friends rather than at home locked in their ivory towers.

Wishforsnow · 06/01/2020 14:33

I noticed this when watching the news this morning. Clearly women who have been raped are less important and rarely believed

JolyonsChickensAreBigots · 06/01/2020 14:30

The reporting struck me too. Completely different tone to the reporting, less sensationalist, no discussion of what the victims were wearing, more respectful of the victims, more straightforward condemnation of the rapist.

There is one similarity though with Warbuoy, rapist is a man.

I'm glad he's been caught and found guilty. Rape is awful for every victim.

placemats · 06/01/2020 14:29

Excellent post OP, I was just about to come to these boards and write similar.

To add: He is the most prolific rapist and he got life. How do they know this? He is the most prolific rapist, who was caught and charged to date.

Obviously, all those men were believed.

darkriver19886 · 06/01/2020 14:12

*on

darkriver19886 · 06/01/2020 14:12

Unsurprising really. There too much attention women you know. 🙄