Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

OK MNHQ: How about 'Things some women are concerned about'

39 replies

pombear · 05/01/2020 22:06

Let's try again, then, in the spirit, and all that.

So at the start of 2020 let's remember our [edited] 'things that some women may be concerned about' from the end of the last decade and hope that this will be the year that everyone sees through the madness.

[also edited] THINGS WOMEN MIGHT BE A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT -

I stand with Maya and Jk Rowling
Jessica Yaniv and the waving of her female scrotum
Unisex changing rooms
Get the L out (Lesbians out of Pride)
Cotton ceiling
Trans women saying theyve had FGM when they were a circumcised male
Flowery Language - people who menstrate, people with cervixes, chest feeding
Woman of the year going to Trans woman
Womens roles/jobs being taken over/reduced ie womans equality officer, now run by a trans woman
Male rapists being placed in female jails
My body is me preschool book being "transphobic"
Googling women killed and the answers being transwomen not women death statistics
Girl guide ruling that states if a girl is unhappy sleeping near a girl with a penis that they need re-educating
Lady dique- women with penis
Being labelled a Cis Woman when Transwomen refuse to be called a Trans Woman
A newspaper appeal for a violent rapist that didnt want to misgender so asked to " find the woman who may be dressed as a man and have male and female identities"
Martina Navratilova being criticised for opposing transgender athletes entering womens sports.
Mermaids
Germaine Greer being no platformed
Monroe Bergdorf telling women at the women’s march not to talk about their reproductive systems cause its exclusionary.
The vagina monologues no longer using the word vagina
Unisex toilets at a risk of losing womens toilets not mens
Pippa Bunce being 1 of the top 50 women in finance despite only being a female a couple of days a week
Jenny Murrays article and telhe outrage surrounding it
Events being shut down for daring to talk about womens rights
Hampstead Ladies Pond
Teen Vogue

As per previous poster, on the thread that must not be named, due to 'high mountains and stuff' , sympathy is for transsexuals, and confused teenage girls who want to be boys, and gender non-confirming children. I wish them, as I do for everyone a safe existence and a right to be who they are. Whilst also retaining women's rights, freedom of speech, and protecting children. How can these things be framed as 'anti trans'?

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
AutumnRose1 · 07/01/2020 10:50

Goose “ I've mentioned before on here that in my country we are now expected to make declarations about being on unceded lands before all kinds of meetings, events, etc.”

Wow. I’d be interested to hear more about that but of course I understand you might not want to share.

ginghamstarfish · 07/01/2020 10:22

Oh yes I do have something to add - the other day my elderly MIL asked me what 'woke' meant as she kept seeing it in the newspaper (she reads the Telegraph). I was glad to explain it to her, with some examples of the type in the OP.

ginghamstarfish · 07/01/2020 10:19

Thank you OP for posting this list. Nothing to add but my support.

Datun · 07/01/2020 09:55

That list pombear. And it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Whenever these issues are collected, it's always so fucking mind blowing.

Al1cewith2020vision · 07/01/2020 09:49

I’m worried that women who see safeguarding risks are branded as bigots.

And I’m really pissed off at having my identity hacked.

Chocolatemice · 07/01/2020 09:12

Flowers wrongsideofhistorymyarse. You must be so worried.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 07/01/2020 09:08

I worry about the effects of testosterone on my niece, who is transitioning.

brendansbuddy · 07/01/2020 08:11

Plus his choice of pink for the French fancy means he must be a woman ...

brendansbuddy · 07/01/2020 08:10

I think you'll find it's Mx Kipling Grin

marvellousnightforamooncup · 06/01/2020 23:15

Is Mr Kipling trans or on binary then? And Paul Hollywood?

averylongtimeago · 06/01/2020 23:13

This will also be deleted.
Women (or at least the cunty xx sort) are not allowed free speech incase it offends men.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/01/2020 22:59

The world is full of men who bake for a living. How did we get to this point?

OhHolyJesus · 06/01/2020 22:51

A momentary derail...An anecdote for the opening meeting declarations.

Not my school but as the intro to PTA meeting for a fundraiser bake sale the HT announced that she has gender questioning relatives. I think it was in reference to men being able to bake too but it was oddest opening line I've ever heard.

Original poster
pombear · 06/01/2020 22:45

Just popping in to say I wasn't the original OP of the thread that got deleted and to that OP, I hope you don't mind I reposted your post with the edits so quickly.

I'd also c & ped like OhHolyJesus once it was clear it was going, and was just fed up of seeing things deleted for reasons that make little sense, so flung it right back out there, without being able to name check you!

I thought it was a good summary and deserved reposting. And, as others have added, there are so many other things that could be added to that list.

Including, today, sadly the fact that an academic/lawyer found it reasonable to conflate women with mastectomies with men with penises into the same definition of 'non-normative women's bodies'. And none in the Scottish Government went, 'hang on, that's a bit shit'. Sad

twitter.com/Scottish_Women/status/1213959328761290753

Standing with all those women today who have found this offensive, upsetting and hurtful. A new low.

OP posts:
Goosefoot · 06/01/2020 19:15

I don't go into meetings at work and say "before we get started, I want to say that I am fully behind everybody's right to speak up and support the right of everyone to have an opinion"

I've mentioned before on here that in my country we are now expected to make declarations about being on unceded lands before all kinds of meetings, events, etc.

I've wondered if this will eventually become a sort of list of orthodoxies, lie a creed of sorts.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 06/01/2020 19:07

Did anyone see the Charlie Brooker Screen Wipe thing? I watched the review of the decade 2010 to 2015 highlight prog. A small snippet about Russia caught my interest.

It was about how Putin stays in power using the advice of a conceptual artist bloke. They put out tons of fake news as we know, fake websites, fake bots. They fund lots of agitators, terrorists, political parties etc on all sides to create so much confusion, nobody believes anything anymore and those in power can do what they like.

It strikes me that the trans thing is destablising society in a similar way. If identity and rights are so fluid, they mean nothing and don't matter.

Lifeinthelastlane · 06/01/2020 18:53

That list. It's like one of those "spot the true fact amidst the crazy ones" games.
Except they are all true. Angry

Newuser123123 · 06/01/2020 18:33

Prince Andrew

LangCleg · 06/01/2020 10:13

Mine is....

... posh idiot using the aesthetic of a trafficked teen girl in a photo shoot for a human rights org.

VinandVigour · 06/01/2020 09:27

It’s a long list OP.

May I add the WPUK Brighton meeting onto your list? That and the fact not one person from The Labour Party cabinet came to the defence of the participants spoke volumes to me. Then the does it/doesn’t it, are they/aren’t they, Dawn Butler nonsense from their manifesto.

And the whole, wider political scene, the lax controls regarding safeguarding, and LGBT twitter accounts etc, looking at you Lib Dem’s, Greens, especially Jo Swinson and Layla Moran. The never released consultation, showing the Tories can’t be trusted either.

Also the whole ‘Harry the Owl’ and check your thinking debacle. That’s a massive concern to me. In fact the ‘woke’ Police is a massive concern.

FlyingOink · 06/01/2020 09:21

It really makes me angry that you feel compelled to state the shitting obvious. You know your morals already, you don't need to announce them like a fucking train station.

I don't go into meetings at work and say "before we get started, I want to say that I am fully behind everybody's right to speak up and support the right of everyone to have an opinion"

Grin brilliant.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/01/2020 08:41

Just what you always wanted, a prime minister who can't count!

HorseWithNoAnecdotes · 06/01/2020 08:27

Boris seems to know who to impregnate but gets all befuddled when it comes to counting up the children.

jamrollyolly · 06/01/2020 08:22

Buxxshitbag fantastic post!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/01/2020 08:02

So far none of the leaders of any party are willing to admit that they know what a woman is.

Swipe left for the next trending thread