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Jess Phillip's championing the removal of asking the consent of a woman before her marriage changes.

153 replies

FloralFestiveBunting · 05/01/2020 19:00

twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1213887262414581761

Well that's disappointing, to say the least.

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KatyCarrCan · 05/01/2020 21:52

They seem to be doing their damndest to make Labour unelectable. I've run out of sympathy with them.
Perhaps it is time for a new party that doesn't capitulate to bullies.

FloralBunting · 05/01/2020 21:52

Urgh, some of the dribbling arseholes on that thread, including one delightful character making much of of their wife being only too happy to stay with their fragrantly feminine self. And one particular line of argument that says "If you want to end the marriage because you're unhappy with a fundamental change to your marriage, go ahead. But you can't stop it, nur, nur!"

These are the kinds of people you're hitching your wagon to, Jess Phillips. For shame.

CodenameVillanelle · 05/01/2020 21:50

Keir Starmer has been merrily touting his support of GRA reform and trans rights too so that's another candidate that won't get my fucking vote

KatyCarrCan · 05/01/2020 21:50

She's foolishly trying to appease the TRAs and Momentum bros who are trying to scupper her leadership bid by calling her a transphobe. She hasn't yet realised that they can't be appeased.

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2020 21:49

Yeps. Not a fucking clue what us the ordinary people think

Not a fucking clue or does have but will sell women down the river to get some votes

There you go.

Sell women down the river Jess

HandsOffMyRights · 05/01/2020 21:46

Not surprised. My friends' MP and didn't go to the WPUK/Fairplay meetings when asked by female constituents.
She did, however, go to see Amnesty instead Hmm

EwwSprouts · 05/01/2020 21:42

Still out of touch. Impressive lack of applied intelligence given she sat on the committee.

Voice0fReason · 05/01/2020 21:29

Oh Jess I had such hopes for you!
Think about this from a woman's perspective!!
It's not all about what the man wants.
Let her get out of a marriage before her husband changes it to a same sex relationship without her consent.

MoltenLasagne · 05/01/2020 21:17

It's spousal entrapment and anyone who spent ten seconds thinking about it would realise it too. Shows how much thought she's given to signing away women's rights.

TinselAngel · 05/01/2020 21:13

The most accurate way of describing the current law IMO is "Spousal Exit Clause"

OhHolyJesus · 05/01/2020 21:00

I read her book, I thought she wouldn't be TWAW as she worked so closely with DV victims. There really is no limit to how wrong you can be about someone. Beyond disappointed.

Gone2far · 05/01/2020 21:00

no surprise to me.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/01/2020 20:45

FFS. I thought she was great.

Past tense.

Barracker · 05/01/2020 20:42

About time we came up with a riposte to the utterly misnamed "spousal veto"

What Jess is actually advocating is a "forced marriage clause"

Perhaps we should start calling her proposed clause what it is.

Forcing through an immense change of marriage contract, AND a reversal of the nature of the spousal sexual partnership from heterosexual to 'homosexual' or vice versa - without the consent of the spouse.

Kit19 · 05/01/2020 20:41

Sadly I’m afraid that Jess is 100% TWAW & isn’t bothered about throwing women under a bus in pursuit of internal labour woke points to win the leadership

howwillthispanout · 05/01/2020 20:39

What background would that be?! I think some people here have bought into a myth about Jess that does not reflect the reality. She’s not “better than this” and never has been.

Tootsweets23 · 05/01/2020 20:31

God Tinsel I hear you. It is utterly tedious especially for a woman with her background.

BadgertheBodger · 05/01/2020 20:25

Absolutely rage inducing.

FFS Jess. You’re better than this. Tinsel it’s thanks to you I’m aware of this at all - to me it’s the very definition of misogyny. The brave and stunning transitioning male has his voice listened to and his needs met, while the trans widow he left in his wake is not even allowed to attend the discussion never mind given a voice. Horrible.

StillWeRise · 05/01/2020 19:30

oh dear
was hoping that would be an old comment but no, it's today, no excuse for that

howwillthispanout · 05/01/2020 19:22

No surprise there - Jess is not a champion of anything except herself. She is after the party votes.

TinselAngel · 05/01/2020 19:20

Au fait!

TinselAngel · 05/01/2020 19:20

Thanks Floral.

In case anyone here isn't sure fait with this, here's a summary.

Just replace "Lib Dems" with "Labour" Hmm

makemorenoisemanc.wixsite.com/mysite/post/trans-widows-and-the-spousal-veto-a-modern-fable-of-male-entitlement

FloralBunting · 05/01/2020 19:15

Tinsel, I don't have the energy to do more than change out of my Christmas name and have a bath after a full day at work. But I've still got your back in this.

HermioneWeasley · 05/01/2020 19:12

FFS.

How can an intelligent woman not see the fucking problems with self ID and the utterly misnamed “veto”?

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 05/01/2020 19:11

so disappointing. i like her in many ways. but being prone to such lazy thinking is a very bad sign

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