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$13mn compensation for pornography

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Chocolatemice · 03/01/2020 18:28

Its gone now, but there was an article in the New York Times about women who were being awarded compensation for being tricked and bullied into pornography. One woman who stood up to her abusers had the film sent to people in her professional and personal life.

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PencilsInSpace · 05/01/2020 10:40

This is worth watching for insight into the industry. I don't know if girlsdoporn, girlsdotoys, BLL Media, Plus One Media, Begin Modeling, Bubble Gum Casting, Bubblegum Films, Bubblegum Media or Clockwork Productions Inc are connected to MindGeek. Pornhub, one of the sites the videos ended up, is a subsidiary though and it's the same shitty business model.

PencilsInSpace · 05/01/2020 10:19

You need to read this FluffyHippo:

www.documentcloud.org/documents/6469234-Pratt-Wolfe-Complaint.html

They were deceived, groomed, coerced and raped.

FluffyHippo · 05/01/2020 10:01

Don't patronise me, QuentinWinters. They consented to appear in porn for money and they're just pissed off because it reached a wider audience than they expected.

I think people are maybe seeing these women as being like those poor women who agree to private photos and videos in the context of a relationship, only to find that this private consensual material has been shared around or uploaded on to commercial porn sites.

They're not.

They answered adverts for porn actors, attended auditions, signed contracts, had sex with strangers in front of a cameraman and sound recordist (presumably with professional lighting) and then took money for their 'performances'. Not a lot of victimhood there, is there? No-one forced them to go through all those stages - it was their choice to appear in porn for financial reward.

QuentinWinters · 05/01/2020 09:17

Sounds like you dont understand consent hippo.

FluffyHippo · 05/01/2020 09:05

Hang on a sec.

These women knew what they were doing - they agreed to take money to appear in porn. They had sex with strangers knowing it was being filmed for financial gain. In so doing, they actively contributed to the misogyny, hate and violence that women face every day from men but figured that their need for cash was more important than solidarity with other women.

Don't make them victims, infantilising them by calling them 'young girls' or making out that they were exploited. They demeaned themselves and betrayed other women out of greed and are now only upset because lots of men masturbated over them and not just one.

TheChampagneGalop · 05/01/2020 08:12

I'd say this is the standard. Young women being tricked and not told exactly what will happen. It's heartening that the women won this case - I hope it will make more victims dare to come forward and sue. Sue the entire fucking porn industry, destroy it. It's based on abuse.

FlyingOink · 04/01/2020 10:18

I've just gone onto one porn clip site and searched for "girls do porn", it gave half a million results.
Those videos will become more popular as the news gets out. sputniknews.com/society/201912021077458630-indian-rape-victim-becomes-most-searched-on-porn-site/ is another example.
How people can watch these videos if they know that the women are being lied to, plied with alcohol & drugs etc

Men get off on the fact these women and girls are lied to, plied with alcohol and drugs etc. It's not that they aren't aware.

Cwenthryth · 03/01/2020 21:26

GirlsDoPorn: Young women win legal battle over video con www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50982051

How people can watch these videos if they know that the women are being lied to, plied with alcohol & drugs etc... it needs to be more widely reported and discussed that that is the case. It’s false advertising, is it not a trading standards thing apart from the whole sexual assault/rape angle (coercing someone into sex under false pretences).
Gross. I really feel for these women.

Chocolatemice · 03/01/2020 19:51

Oh shoots, I saw that thread. Sorry, I didn’t realise we were talking about the same thing.

I can’t imagine how those poor women must feel. The West really isn’t that far ahead in its attitude to shaming woken.

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Uncompromisingwoman · 03/01/2020 19:17

It's truly awful. Sorry about the Guardian link but they have covered this:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/03/girlsdoporn-site-pay-127m-women-didnt-know-videos-posted

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 03/01/2020 19:07

sorry try that again link

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 03/01/2020 19:06

I posted about it here, yesterday

[https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3783537-Reddit-thread-about-porn?msgid=92764562]

CornishMaid1 · 03/01/2020 19:02

I saw the story on BBC news earlier. Apparently the ‘company’ pride themselves on amateur first time ‘porn stars’ and were telling the women they were for a private collection or for overseas sales and then uploading them to a subscription service and uploading clips onto free porn sites.

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