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British woman found guilty of making up rape claims

308 replies

RoyalCorgi · 30/12/2019 10:12

The war on women continues:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/30/briton-found-guilty-over-ayia-napa-false-claim-cyprus

The poor, poor woman. Facing a year in jail for being gang-raped.

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CrissmussMockers · 31/12/2019 16:38

It's bound to be thrown out on procedural grounds alone. Convictions for the men and boys are another matter, even if you can get them back, which is unlikely, and could well become a cause for the loathsome Netanyahu, fugitive from justice himself seeking a leventeenth term and lifetime immunity for his and his equally loathsome wife's kleptomania.

pallisers · 31/12/2019 16:36

I very much doubt a woman "consenting" to 12 men having sex with her does so genuinely.

Yes. I wish any case like this started on this completely common sense assumption that the vast majority of women will not consent to have sex with 12 men on a night out. And it was up to the 12 men to prove consent - I mean surely one of them will have had the sense to get a video of explicit consent on their trusty phone?

This case is disgusting and I feel for that young woman - the trauma of what she endured both in the attack and in the aftermath is horrifying.

Al1ceinWinterWonderland · 31/12/2019 16:30

I very much doubt a woman "consenting" to 12 men having sex with her does so genuinely.

I believe her.

Thank You Julie Bindell for putting the crowdfunder link on your twitter page.

Fraggling · 31/12/2019 16:22

There were 11 of them weren't they is that how many on a football team.

Lovely.

Male bonding is awesome.

Fraggling · 31/12/2019 16:21

Well I mean their identities are hardly secret what with the film of them singing and dancing at the airport with everyone standing around cheering them on.

So I assume no one will be on to say snoffair.

ChristmasiscomingJonSnow · 31/12/2019 16:11

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ as requested by the OP.

Lysistrataknowsherstuff · 31/12/2019 15:54

Some of the men have been named on Twitter: the one she agreed to have sex with is a football player. Quelle surprise, another footballer getting away with rape.

C8H10N4O2 · 31/12/2019 15:17

MRAs are posting a more comprehensive set of denials and victim blaming than usualy (including some claims that she was a predator leading the "young boys" astray) so this business has obviously upset someone more than usual. I see some of those claims repeated here.

Typically I'd expect to see some brain dead semi literate ranting followed by a few more faux academic attacks.

Fraggling · 31/12/2019 15:12

But gang rape presumably is a crime in Cyprus and look what's happened so who knows.

Fraggling · 31/12/2019 15:10

In the UK but maybe not Cyprus.

angell84 · 31/12/2019 15:07

I also thought that filming someone having sex and putting it online without their consent - is a crime in itself.

angell84 · 31/12/2019 15:07

@Rogileiza

what is your response to - " the girl did not report the rape herself. The doctor reported it after seeing her injuries"

Devereux1 · 31/12/2019 15:06

Rogileiza
The rape claim was a response to the humiliation she suffered by having the video of the act posted online.

How do you know that, as a matter of fact?

dancingbadger · 31/12/2019 15:05

I believe her I've just donated to the crowdfunding page. Totally disgusted with how she's been treated.

FrauleinF · 31/12/2019 15:05

Wait? It wasn't actually even her who reported it, but a doctor? So her reward for someone trying to get her some kind of justice is public humiliation, vilification and a criminal conviction?

Echoes of the Ched Evans case here - where it wasn't even his victim who reported the rape, but his own testimony of what he had done that night basically gave him away. Hey ho though, she had had sex with other random men before (consent to one man, consent to them all) and apparently men who have been bunged 50 grand by the perpetrator's family to clear his name are just fine in a fair trial so of course Ched Evans was acquitted. How many times has the victim had to change her identity now thanks to campaigns smearing her name online?

How long will it be before victims not only don't bother reporting rapes to the police, but also don't seek medical treatment for their injuries or similar as some well meaning official will start the ball rolling to their name being dragged through the mud, being painted as a false rape accuser and their life being ruined?!

FWRLurker · 31/12/2019 15:04

Ah ok so 18 yo consents to violent unprotected sex with 12 unknown men but is upset because a clip of it went on pornhub. sounds pretty likely. no.

Any response to the multiple posters who pointed out that it was her doctor, NOT her that called the police? Also how does that timing work out with the video release? I would imagine she’s been treated for injuries sooner than a video would be uploaded.

bd67th · 31/12/2019 15:02

Wow, it took all of three pages for the rape deniers to turn up. FFS give your head a wobble Rogileiza.

ChattyLion · 31/12/2019 14:49

I believe her.

She’s just a young kid, the poor thing. I can’t even begin to imagine the utter shit she’s been through.

PanicAndRun · 31/12/2019 14:44

She did not report it to the police!!

They suffered?!? They were welcomed as heroes back home, with champagne and chants. They said they regret nothing! They said they plan to sue her. They laughed at her and called her names.

While she's been left injured, PTSD and put in jail, for something she didn't start.

Suffered my arse.

DeeZastris · 31/12/2019 14:40

Stop talking out of your arse.

Rogileiza · 31/12/2019 14:37

Because I am following the story since day 1, and read all facts reported so far, in English, Greek, and Hebrew. The rape claim was a response to the humiliation she suffered by having the video of the act posted online. And I think she acted properly, she would not get vindicated from what they did to her if she had made a case of invasion of privacy against the boys. By claiming rape, the boys suffered (and deserved) the same public humiliation they put her through.

Fraggling · 31/12/2019 14:35

Yes I wonder.

I think it's illegal to film people in intimate situations without their consent in UK and posting online has 'revenge porn' laws now as well. Hopefully laws like this will be implemented across the world as women need the protection (and some meb, with as usual other men being the culprits).

That's aside from this case where it's clear she was stitched up from the off, to protect their tourist industry.

theflushedzebra · 31/12/2019 14:26

Oh, and welcome to Mumsnet Rogileiza - what made you join up to this parenting website, and post on only two threads on the women's rights forum about this rape case, I wonder?

theflushedzebra · 31/12/2019 14:24

Rogileiza - Incorrect. The doctor treating her injuries made the report.

Rogileiza · 31/12/2019 14:20

She made the rape claims after she found out the guys posted a video exposing her online

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